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Old 05-09-18, 12:47 AM
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Too Much to Ask For: 12mm x100 Thru Disc Dynamo

Is there any other Dynamo hub in 12x100 thru besides Schmidt's $400 unit. I'm regretting the purchase of a "modern road standard" bike. Please help...
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Yep, Shutter Precision SP 8X dynamo hub https://www.bike-components.de/en/Sh...mo-Hub-p61024/
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Siva Cycle The Siva Atom Portable Charger

https://www.rei.com/product/876042/s...rtable-charger

Small cheap and works well. I have had one for a few years now and I can move it from bike to bike in about 5 quick mins.
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Originally Posted by mbusky

Siva Cycle The Siva Atom Portable Charger

https://www.rei.com/product/876042/s...rtable-charger

Small cheap and works well. I have had one for a few years now and I can move it from bike to bike in about 5 quick mins.
Whilst your link was informative of the item, were you aware at the top of the page it states "Siva Cycle The Siva Atom Portable Charger is no longer available"?
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Whilst your link was informative of the item, were you aware at the top of the page it states "Siva Cycle The Siva Atom Portable Charger is no longer available"?
AVAILABLE AT https://www.purecycles.com/products/siva-atom 129.00

ALSO this one I cannot vouch for but less than 60 bucks on Amazon

Lontano 3.9inch ABS Bicycle Chain Pedal Generator Dynamo Charger to USB 1000mAh - Black

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Originally Posted by mbusky
AVAILABLE AT https://www.purecycles.com/products/siva-atom 129.00

ALSO this one I cannot vouch for but less than 60 bucks on Amazon

Lontano 3.9inch ABS Bicycle Chain Pedal Generator Dynamo Charger to USB 1000mAh - Black

The OP is looking for a dynamo hub, not a usb charger...
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https://www.amazon.com/Siva-Atom-Bic...ews/B00PV9WQF2
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https://nabendynamo.de/en/products/h...or-thru-axles/
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Thanks all.
Yes, this is the SON 28 12, with shipping will be over $400...!!!
Perhaps, I should wait until more manufacturers, like Shimano, etc.begin to produce the 12mm x 100 "road standard."
One would think with all this "adventure bike" stuff going on that there would be more demand & competition in this space...
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Peter White has Dealer accounts , so you may be able to buy thru one of the dealers, in LA and not pay shipping.
My LBS has an account.

Or go to a German seller and cost less including shipping.

SP is Taiwan made, so Shimano like..
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
Thanks all.
Yes, this is the SON 28 12, with shipping will be over $400...!!!
Perhaps, I should wait until more manufacturers, like Shimano, etc.begin to produce the 12mm x 100 "road standard."
One would think with all this "adventure bike" stuff going on that there would be more demand & competition in this space...
Thru axles are still a small subset of hubs, and of course there are more than one size of thru axle, so a subset of a subset. Dynamo hubs are also not super popular in the US, and so are a small subset of the existing front hub market. Three "major" dynamo hub manufacturers come to mind: Schmidt, Shimano, and Sturmey Archer, with Shutter Precision becoming a close 4th. Maybe 3rd. I don't really consider a Sturmey Archer unless I want it with a brake included in the hub.

Of those 4 manufacturers, two currently offer what you want. One offers at a price you find too much, and one offers it at a much lower price. I think that's pretty good for a really small subset of the overall market. Maybe Shimano will eventually get into the market, too, but I feel like you're doing well to have two options. I currently have two Shutter Precision hubs. One is around a year old and one is at least two years old, and they have been working fine.
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
Perhaps, I should wait until more manufacturers, like Shimano, etc.begin to produce the 12mm x 100 "road standard.”
Good luck. At least you’re putting it in quotes, so realize this isn’t actually gonna happen? That’s just not the way the market works anymore. Each company has to come up with a new “better” thing for marketing every few years. There will never be another standard after the normal QR. If there ever is, it won’t be for a while until they’ve exhausted all of the other possibilities. Look at the MTB world. They came up with through axle Long ago, and claimed it as the new standard. Now over a decade later they’re still coming out with new “better” versions, usually just a slight size change so that nothing is compatible and you have to buy their new patented stuff.
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thru axle frame choice limited your options..
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SP Dynamo from Bike-Components works out to be US$200 delivered SON is $300.... Only thing with SP is you are limited to 32 and 36 spokes I think... Nothing wrong with SP Dynamo, I have SON, SP and Shimano, they're all good.
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Originally Posted by michaelm101
Thanks all.
Yes, this is the SON 28 12, with shipping will be over $400...!!!
Perhaps, I should wait until more manufacturers, like Shimano, etc.begin to produce the 12mm x 100 "road standard."
One would think with all this "adventure bike" stuff going on that there would be more demand & competition in this space...
Well there's at least two manufacturers doing 12x100... that technically qualifies as competition...
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Originally Posted by Trevtassie
SP Dynamo from Bike-Components works out to be US$200 delivered SON is $300.... Only thing with SP is you are limited to 32 and 36 spokes I think... Nothing wrong with SP Dynamo, I have SON, SP and Shimano, they're all good.
The SP dynamo I have has been flawless in 10,000km of riding so far. Mine is a QR and 24 spokes but I can't imagine the internal workings are that different on the TA versions. I bought my wheelset from Intelligent Design but they sell hubs alone too; the dropdown menu for the hub shows the Shutter Precision PD-8X-M (12mm) in both 6 bolt and centerlock versions, 24/28/32h. They are niche products and there really isn't that much more innovation to do on the tech, so I don't know how much choice is reasonable to expect. Most shimano dynamo hubs are probably aimed at the commuter market in Europe and Japan, so it will be a long while before TA is a thing in that market.
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