trailer or rear panniers? Utility riding in all conditions.
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trailer or rear panniers? Utility riding in all conditions.
I bought a Surly Pugsley with the intent on using it more often as an errand bike & utility build in all weather. I didn't want to commit to going full on Big Dummy build as I wanted the fat tires and ability to ride wherever without the longer frame.
So now I need input on what to buy, pull trailer vs rear panniers. I have not purchased either as of yet.
I am 38. I have a home daycare, so need to transport a fair amount of foods from the grocery store every week.
Both kids of my own ride their own bikes and we live 2 miles from our local Walmart, but dad is home evenings & weekends so I don't always need them to go with me.
I live in Nebraska and we do have pretty hot temps but snow was well, we average just 8 snowy days a year(that it actually snows actively) but it can stick around for weeks at a time.
I will be able to ride a 11ft wide paved hiker biker trail from my house to the store. I am very fortunate to live right off the trail and the store is too.
I typically fill 2-3 reusable grocery bags, along with 4 milk jugs, and 2 24 packs of soda every week when I go shopping.
I used to have a Burley but sold it, would that be my best bet or should I go full on utility trailer? The more I think about it, I think panniers wouldn't work just because of all the drinks I buy and haul.
So now I need input on what to buy, pull trailer vs rear panniers. I have not purchased either as of yet.
I am 38. I have a home daycare, so need to transport a fair amount of foods from the grocery store every week.
Both kids of my own ride their own bikes and we live 2 miles from our local Walmart, but dad is home evenings & weekends so I don't always need them to go with me.
I live in Nebraska and we do have pretty hot temps but snow was well, we average just 8 snowy days a year(that it actually snows actively) but it can stick around for weeks at a time.
I will be able to ride a 11ft wide paved hiker biker trail from my house to the store. I am very fortunate to live right off the trail and the store is too.
I typically fill 2-3 reusable grocery bags, along with 4 milk jugs, and 2 24 packs of soda every week when I go shopping.
I used to have a Burley but sold it, would that be my best bet or should I go full on utility trailer? The more I think about it, I think panniers wouldn't work just because of all the drinks I buy and haul.
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I have a Salsa Mukluk 2 I use as a winter bike, a summer hell-raiser, and I never would have expected it, but its my primary trailer-hauler. The main reason being that the oversized tires provide a shock absorber effect from the accelerate/decelerate lag time of the trailer.
With the weight of the liquid beverages plus whatever may find itself on your shopping list that week, a trailer would be your best bet because it handles both the weight and the balance of the freight. You still have to pull it, but pulling it alone is better than pulling it and balancing it on your bike, not to mention the fact that a trailer is usually much easier to pack than two or more panniers. Keep in mind that most trailers have a 50 pound weight limit, so there may be times you need a trailer and panniers.
Generally speaking though, during the winter I want to be be able to concentrate on balance and surface conditions when riding, and I don't want to have to compensate for added weight on either or both sides...hence, the trailer.
The downside to pulling a trailer during winter, especially with fat bikes, is the water/mud splash the rear tire throws on the trailer and its contents. I use waterproof containers to carry anything I put on my trailer, which protects the cargo itself, but it still can be a mess to clean up.
I never really had a problem with snow or slush with the trailer as far as handling was concerned, but I live in a city that plows the bike paths often before the roads, so that has probably helped a bit.
With the weight of the liquid beverages plus whatever may find itself on your shopping list that week, a trailer would be your best bet because it handles both the weight and the balance of the freight. You still have to pull it, but pulling it alone is better than pulling it and balancing it on your bike, not to mention the fact that a trailer is usually much easier to pack than two or more panniers. Keep in mind that most trailers have a 50 pound weight limit, so there may be times you need a trailer and panniers.
Generally speaking though, during the winter I want to be be able to concentrate on balance and surface conditions when riding, and I don't want to have to compensate for added weight on either or both sides...hence, the trailer.
The downside to pulling a trailer during winter, especially with fat bikes, is the water/mud splash the rear tire throws on the trailer and its contents. I use waterproof containers to carry anything I put on my trailer, which protects the cargo itself, but it still can be a mess to clean up.
I never really had a problem with snow or slush with the trailer as far as handling was concerned, but I live in a city that plows the bike paths often before the roads, so that has probably helped a bit.
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Sounds like you will need a trailer to start with if you intend to use year round. A Big Dummy carries the load so that you don't get the wobble that you would normally get on a normal framed bike when you load it heavy. With the Pugs or any normal length frame, your load gets stored behind the rear axle and gives you that wobble that isn't good in the snow or mud.
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Even though it sounds like a trailer will be the way to go for your larger loads, I'd keep looking for good sales on a rack and panniers. I got the rack for my touring bike for $10 and some good waterproof panniers for $30, so it doesn't have to cost that much to add the option of using panniers for smaller shopping trips. And having a rear rack on the bike with a bungee or straps lets you pick up things at impromptu stops where you wouldn't have the trailer along.
Even though it sounds like a trailer will be the way to go for your larger loads, I'd keep looking for good sales on a rack and panniers. I got the rack for my touring bike for $10 and some good waterproof panniers for $30, so it doesn't have to cost that much to add the option of using panniers for smaller shopping trips. And having a rear rack on the bike with a bungee or straps lets you pick up things at impromptu stops where you wouldn't have the trailer along.
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Too bad you shed the kid hauling trailer, those repurpose nicely.. but there are Utility trailers ,
with a place to mount a big tub Like Rubbermaid's with a dry closure lid.
and there is also using the Burly Travoy a seat post mount trailer
that you might take into the store and load it up at the checkout.
I have used my Panniers as a shopping bag, store gave me a nickel credit
for each bag I did not use.
with a place to mount a big tub Like Rubbermaid's with a dry closure lid.
and there is also using the Burly Travoy a seat post mount trailer
that you might take into the store and load it up at the checkout.
I have used my Panniers as a shopping bag, store gave me a nickel credit
for each bag I did not use.
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I bought a Surly Pugsley with the intent on using it more often as an errand bike & utility build in all weather. I didn't want to commit to going full on Big Dummy build as I wanted the fat tires and ability to ride wherever without the longer frame.
So now I need input on what to buy, pull trailer vs rear panniers. I have not purchased either as of yet.
I am 38. I have a home daycare, so need to transport a fair amount of foods from the grocery store every week.
Both kids of my own ride their own bikes and we live 2 miles from our local Walmart, but dad is home evenings & weekends so I don't always need them to go with me.
I live in Nebraska and we do have pretty hot temps but snow was well, we average just 8 snowy days a year(that it actually snows actively) but it can stick around for weeks at a time.
I will be able to ride a 11ft wide paved hiker biker trail from my house to the store. I am very fortunate to live right off the trail and the store is too.
I typically fill 2-3 reusable grocery bags, along with 4 milk jugs, and 2 24 packs of soda every week when I go shopping.
I used to have a Burley but sold it, would that be my best bet or should I go full on utility trailer? The more I think about it, I think panniers wouldn't work just because of all the drinks I buy and haul.
So now I need input on what to buy, pull trailer vs rear panniers. I have not purchased either as of yet.
I am 38. I have a home daycare, so need to transport a fair amount of foods from the grocery store every week.
Both kids of my own ride their own bikes and we live 2 miles from our local Walmart, but dad is home evenings & weekends so I don't always need them to go with me.
I live in Nebraska and we do have pretty hot temps but snow was well, we average just 8 snowy days a year(that it actually snows actively) but it can stick around for weeks at a time.
I will be able to ride a 11ft wide paved hiker biker trail from my house to the store. I am very fortunate to live right off the trail and the store is too.
I typically fill 2-3 reusable grocery bags, along with 4 milk jugs, and 2 24 packs of soda every week when I go shopping.
I used to have a Burley but sold it, would that be my best bet or should I go full on utility trailer? The more I think about it, I think panniers wouldn't work just because of all the drinks I buy and haul.
Carrying four jugs of milk can really effect bike handling due to the rather higher center of gravity and the milk sloshing around while you ride will wildly tip your bike side to side. Trailer will solve this problem.
For city shopping, I mainly use my Burley Travoy because it can be detached and carry it with you into the store, but for cargo hauling and bulk buying plus going off-trails into farm buying fresh produce, the Maya Cycle Trailer is a better trailer. Each has its own benefits.
Hope this helps.
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I prefer a trailer. I live in the suburbs, which makes it easier than using it in a city. I keep the trailer outside next to the house, so it doesn't have to go up and down stairs or through any doors. It doesn't affect bike handling, and it requires less pedaling and balancing effort than adding weight to the bike.
I use a kiddie trailer I got on craigslist for only $60. I think it's a $400 model. I've towed over 100 pounds on it, even on moderate hills. It's amazing how easy it is.
I use a kiddie trailer I got on craigslist for only $60. I think it's a $400 model. I've towed over 100 pounds on it, even on moderate hills. It's amazing how easy it is.
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there is a Way Outback story of a guy using A Pug, an xtrawheel &3rd Pugsly wheel ,
and towing it on a long self contained haul all your own grub n water in the desert kind of trip.
and towing it on a long self contained haul all your own grub n water in the desert kind of trip.
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I agree with you and most everybody else who has responded. You want a trailer. I actually make them and you can check out mine at www.redbiketrailer.com. however I designed mine the needs of a single household in mind. With a daycare you may need something larger like a Bikes at Work trailer - www.bikesatwork.com
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I prefer my BOB for hauling beer. I thought that BOB meant "Beer on Board".