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Yeah, they went single file when they encountered someone riding the opposite direction. What else did they need to do?
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Beautiful day today(almost 80 degrees), I knew the Greenway/MUP was going to be busy. So, I gave it another shot in the sense I went out about 20 miles centered on the right side of the yellow line and came back riding on the hard right of the the yellow line. On the way out every group of riders coming at me went into single file and gave me no grief or nasty looks.
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The MUPs in my area have three lanes, one for pedestrians, and one each direction for cyclists, separated by white lines and with fairly frequent symbols. What I see is people walking abreast, in both directions, and barely managing to filter by when a group encounters a group coming the other way. Cyclists are fortunate to get a bike's width to pass (without a dog leash stretched across) even without an oncoming group of pedestrians.
I'm not sure what changing the paint color to yellow would accomplish when the white paint is roundly ignored. Most of the time the roads are a better alternative.
I'm not sure what changing the paint color to yellow would accomplish when the white paint is roundly ignored. Most of the time the roads are a better alternative.
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On the road, I hesitate to move over to the right allowing motorists to close pass me. The risk is too great compared to the courtesy you are giving them. And they don't care anyways.
On a MUP, I don't mind moving over. The cyclist(s) passing me risks as much as me if we get into a collision so I assume he, she or they will do so carefully.
On a MUP, I don't mind moving over. The cyclist(s) passing me risks as much as me if we get into a collision so I assume he, she or they will do so carefully.
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Perhaps you think the OP should be handing out cookies since apparently he's not allowed to have a sour attitude about it but the group of morons get a free pass?
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I think there are much bigger problems in life than other cyclists looking sour when doing what they're supposed to do -- passing single file, announcing they're overtaking on the left, asking someone to please move to the right. This is on the level of a waving thread.
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I think there are much bigger problems in life than other cyclists looking sour when doing what they're supposed to do -- passing single file, announcing they're overtaking on the left, asking someone to please move to the right. This is on the level of a waving thread.
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The OP did not describe any of that behavior.
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You're assuming just as much with "doing everything right". Why the double standard? I certainly didn't see the OP stating that they did everything right.
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1. The overtaking group yelled "on the left."
2. "a few ask me to move to the right please as they passed me."
3. "groups of cyclists coming at me taking 3/4 of the lane, had to move to single file..."
4. "... they were not really happy about it. Dirty looks was usually what I got as they flew by."
Other than #4, what do you think they did wrong?
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I'm not assuming anything -- I'm going by what the OP stated, nothing more:
1. The overtaking group yelled "on the left."
2. "a few ask me to move to the right please as they passed me."
3. "groups of cyclists coming at me taking 3/4 of the lane, had to move to single file..."
4. "... they were not really happy about it. Dirty looks was usually what I got as they flew by."
1. The overtaking group yelled "on the left."
2. "a few ask me to move to the right please as they passed me."
3. "groups of cyclists coming at me taking 3/4 of the lane, had to move to single file..."
4. "... they were not really happy about it. Dirty looks was usually what I got as they flew by."
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I gotta say, I've been riding quite a few times recently with someone who just uses a loud bell, and it seems to work better than anything else. I have seen (and had happen to me) people move left because they heard the word "left" at just the wrong time.
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So, your theory is that the OP started a thread about other riders doing things that he didn't like, but he left out the most egregious parts, opting to only mention the "dirty looks" part?
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I'm just posing it as a possibility. We do not have complete information.
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It stopped happening when I specified "passing" and "on your left" Just saying "left" or "on your left" doesn't cut it.
From what I've seen where I ride, bells confuse a lot of people. I think some of this is regional tradition. Most people around here don't say anything and don't ring a bell when they pass, which I find mind-boggling..
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The OP stated that similar groups previously did not move over and that the dirty looks happened when he asserted himself and stood his ground. That would suggest that the oncoming group only moved over when it became clear that the OP was not going to move, which was likely later than they should have. No matter how early they moved over, the attitude that they wanted the OP to abandon his rightful place to accommodate their entitled @$$es is wrong.
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