Tern Verge p10
07-22-20, 04:47 PM
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07-23-20, 02:39 AM
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It's appalling that Tern is still in business. Do not buy that bike.
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07-23-20, 02:58 AM
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I actually had a conversation with josh (CS of tern) they told me that they already improved their frame structure. But Ill take that with grain of salt
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07-23-20, 03:44 AM
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Bromton or Tern P10 can’t be compared, they are of a different category in my view. Bromton is robust and with a long life, suitable for daily commuting of short(<=12km?) distances (16” tires) combined with compact folding which is nice in a train. A P10 (20”) is more vulnerable and less compact when folded, but cycles better (lighter, convenient) so also suitable for longer distances. Never owned a bromton but for 2 1/2 year I own a Tern D9 which I use very occasionally for rides of <=50km (without problems and with must pleasure). At the time of purchase i knew of past (?) problems but i took the risk without regret so far.
But i wander: you must have reasons of considering a P10 over a D9, for my interest: a D9 is alteady rather expensive, with features of a P10 are important to you?
But i wander: you must have reasons of considering a P10 over a D9, for my interest: a D9 is alteady rather expensive, with features of a P10 are important to you?
07-23-20, 05:34 AM
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Bromton or Tern P10 can’t be compared, they are of a different category in my view. Bromton is robust and with a long life, suitable for daily commuting of short(<=12km?) distances (16” tires) combined with compact folding which is nice in a train. A P10 (20”) is more vulnerable and less compact when folded, but cycles better (lighter, convenient) so also suitable for longer distances. Never owned a bromton but for 2 1/2 year I own a Tern D9 which I use very occasionally for rides of <=50km (without problems and with must pleasure). At the time of purchase i knew of past (?) problems but i took the risk without regret so far.
But i wander: you must have reasons of considering a P10 over a D9, for my interest: a D9 is alteady rather expensive, with features of a P10 are important to you?
But i wander: you must have reasons of considering a P10 over a D9, for my interest: a D9 is alteady rather expensive, with features of a P10 are important to you?
07-23-20, 06:23 AM
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07-23-20, 06:31 AM
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I really like the Tern p10 but I also value my life. Brompton only focuses on one design hence build quality is good.
Good thing I took my time to research the company's history before buying a bike from them. I think I made the right decision.
07-23-20, 06:39 AM
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Yes! I found the M bar was a bit upright for me (170cm) and S bar was just enough to my liking. I will post a picture of my bike once I get it with schwalbe one tire.
I really like the Tern p10 but I also value my life. Brompton only focuses on one design hence build quality is good.
Good thing I took my time to research the company's history before buying a bike from them. I think I made the right decision.
I really like the Tern p10 but I also value my life. Brompton only focuses on one design hence build quality is good.
Good thing I took my time to research the company's history before buying a bike from them. I think I made the right decision.
you cant go wrong with brompton.
in future you will probably complain about weight and the mantnence to stop rust on cromoly frame, but you will get use to it. Like the mantenance required to everthing that lasts.
07-23-20, 03:22 PM
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Rust on frame is not a problem on Brompton unless the painting is damaged. The rear triangle is more sensitive to rust (solution: buy a Superlight Brompton with titanium fork and rear frame).
The fold of the Brompton (and Birdy and Tyrell Ive) are much ore sophisticated than the simplistic middle frame fold of the P10 resulting not only in a smaller package but also in a package much easier to carry.
The 16" ETRTO 349 wheel size of the Brompton is not a problem. What is a problem for performances of the bike is the poor transmission with a 3 speed hub combined with two cogs and large space between gears.
The Birdy and Tyrell Ive have almost the same wheel size (ETRTO 355 = only 6mm bigger than the Brompton) but have a real rear derailleur with a real cassette transmission that provide better performances.
The other weak point of the Brompton is comfort on bad roads/cobbles.
On this point the Ive isn't much better, only the Birdy with its front+rear suspension (and if needed balloon 50mm wide tires) is much better.
Besides the fold, the other strong point of the Brompton is its front bag system (copied by Tyrell on the Ive)., by fr the easiest way to carry things on a commuting bike.
The fold of the Brompton (and Birdy and Tyrell Ive) are much ore sophisticated than the simplistic middle frame fold of the P10 resulting not only in a smaller package but also in a package much easier to carry.
The 16" ETRTO 349 wheel size of the Brompton is not a problem. What is a problem for performances of the bike is the poor transmission with a 3 speed hub combined with two cogs and large space between gears.
The Birdy and Tyrell Ive have almost the same wheel size (ETRTO 355 = only 6mm bigger than the Brompton) but have a real rear derailleur with a real cassette transmission that provide better performances.
The other weak point of the Brompton is comfort on bad roads/cobbles.
On this point the Ive isn't much better, only the Birdy with its front+rear suspension (and if needed balloon 50mm wide tires) is much better.
Besides the fold, the other strong point of the Brompton is its front bag system (copied by Tyrell on the Ive)., by fr the easiest way to carry things on a commuting bike.
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I have 4,000 miles on the replacement frame after the original was recalled. The original never had a problem in its 4,000 mile life. The frames are different and, I believe, improved in the area of the frame hinge/latch assembly.
