Repair Broken SS Bottle Cage?
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Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
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Does anyone have suggestions for repairing a broken spoke? I don't want to throw it out if it can be repaired.
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Yes, this cheap-ass is thrifty.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
I've never heard that Al cages would mark up bottles in a way that Ti wouldn't.... are you talking about paint rubbing off or something?
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Same guy later welded up a hole in an aluminum a/c line from a customer's car. Saved a lot of money using this guy.
What kind of solder are you using on stainless?
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Aluminum cages turn the bottle black wherever they contact the bottle. I'm sure you've seen disgusting bottles before?
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This. Not sure if it's aluminum oxide or something else, but it is a thing.
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All of my bottles look like they've been ridden hard and put away wet, regardless of cage. Right or not, I've always attributed the ugliness to abrasion from road grit, and whatnot, as they're inserted/removed from the cages. I can't say that I've noticed chemical blackening, though the Al cages that I have are both black, so maybe that's enough of a barrier?
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I'm amazed by what highly skilled welders can do. When I rode dirt bikes I had a failure which caused the magnesium center case to be damaged by a bearing for the transmission mainshaft. New cases were super expensive but I found a welder who could close the damaged hole (it was about 17mm diameter) down to where it could be machined out to accept the oem bearing. He welded little beads around the i.d. and stacked them to the top of the hole.
Same guy later welded up a hole in an aluminum a/c line from a customer's car. Saved a lot of money using this guy.
What kind of solder are you using on stainless?
Same guy later welded up a hole in an aluminum a/c line from a customer's car. Saved a lot of money using this guy.
What kind of solder are you using on stainless?
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Yes, this cheap-ass is thrifty.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
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Let me make sure I'm following the conversation correctly. It's bad to have a water bottle on your bike with black marks made by certain cages. People might see them. But it's not bad to have a DIY, jerry-rigged cage on your bike as long as it doesn't mark your bottles. Who cares, it's only a bottle cage. Is that the message I'm getting here?
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Let me make sure I'm following the conversation correctly. It's bad to have a water bottle on your bike with black marks made by certain cages. People might see them. But it's not bad to have a DIY, jerry-rigged cage on your bike as long as it doesn't mark your bottles. Who cares, it's only a bottle cage. Is that the message I'm getting here?
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I fixed a Velo-Orange stainless cage by slipping a nail inside the tubing at the break and silver brazing it in place. After a little clean up, you could barely tell it was broken there.
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[edit: well, okay, the bracket(s) that the mounting bolts pass through are a separate piece of metal welded to this one tube, so those welds are a potential weak point to.]
Which is not to say it couldn't break elsewhere just due to metal fatigue, but that would suggest a pretty indelicate style of drinking on the bike.
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How about a bike ride tomorrow that goes to Lancaster, PA..............to the Universal Cycles store and back. That could be fun and productive.
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I confess, while this makes my inner “tight azz” glow with pride. I think I would just throw it away, by it time I purchased the epoxy/solder/JB weld and spent time finding the right piece to fit it, and then be concerned about it failing. I may as well move on to a new replacement.
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Let me make sure I'm following the conversation correctly. It's bad to have a water bottle on your bike with black marks made by certain cages. People might see them. But it's not bad to have a DIY, jerry-rigged cage on your bike as long as it doesn't mark your bottles. Who cares, it's only a bottle cage. Is that the message I'm getting here?
Oh, and re: aluminum cages - every one I have used to failure has broken and shed the bottle on a ride. The steel cages I have used have been retired or repaired because they broke at one weld but still retained the cage and bottle and (most important) finished that last ride with the bottle - the only reason I carry cages in the first place). They also don't mark bottles. (To me, the marked bottles are a warning that I have a temporary cage; that I need to replace it before it breaks.)
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For the cost of a little epoxy/solder and scrap plus a little care to do a neat job and maybe a half hour of labor the OP can save $20 and keep that cage out of the trash or recycling (the old mantra - reduce, reuse, recycle; in that order). He gets to have some fun and use that cage with pride. Is that bad?
Oh, and re: aluminum cages - every one I have used to failure has broken and shed the bottle on a ride. The steel cages I have used have been retired or repaired because they broke at one weld but still retained the cage and bottle and (most important) finished that last ride with the bottle - the only reason I carry cages in the first place). They also don't mark bottles. (To me, the marked bottles are a warning that I have a temporary cage; that I need to replace it before it breaks.)
Oh, and re: aluminum cages - every one I have used to failure has broken and shed the bottle on a ride. The steel cages I have used have been retired or repaired because they broke at one weld but still retained the cage and bottle and (most important) finished that last ride with the bottle - the only reason I carry cages in the first place). They also don't mark bottles. (To me, the marked bottles are a warning that I have a temporary cage; that I need to replace it before it breaks.)
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This leads to another question.
How long should a water bottle last before it is replaced? I open mine most of the time by clamping teeth down on the nipple and pulling. I do realize it's a family forum. Surely those get worn out after many cycles of doing that.
How long should a water bottle last before it is replaced? I open mine most of the time by clamping teeth down on the nipple and pulling. I do realize it's a family forum. Surely those get worn out after many cycles of doing that.
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For me, that's easy. When the bottle leaks enough that I get electrolyte on the bike from bottles I haven't drank from yet. Cap threading also goes downhill with time. Usually better/ more expensive bottles last longer before they flunk this criteria but not always.
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Yes, this cheap-ass is thrifty.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
Thanks for the comments. Since I ride a Ti bike I like metal cages. Al ones are cheap but mark the bottles. Ti is fly but Ti cages are too pricey. I don't really like CF cages as they cannot bend to adjust for slightly different conditions and/or bottles, so Plan A is try a cheap repair job and Plan B is get a new SS cage.
lightweight (28g) - durable - and work very well; never lost a bottle
worth the added expense in my opinion
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And, of course, you get either the bottle or the Gatorade free, depending on how you look at it. The only problem: most stores no longer carry the 24-oz bottles for some reason.
And I never bother closing the twist top. I figure I'm constantly breathing in whatever gets into or onto the bottle top anyway.
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