Stumped! Bike Lock for 2 Pylons
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This:
Available any size they make pipe, at Most any
hardware. Chain, cable, U-lock won't slide up and over if wrapped tightly underneath. Paint it the same color of the post & they might not even notice. No more expensive than a cheap bike lock.
Welcome to bikeforums BTW, are you in IN?
Available any size they make pipe, at Most any
hardware. Chain, cable, U-lock won't slide up and over if wrapped tightly underneath. Paint it the same color of the post & they might not even notice. No more expensive than a cheap bike lock.
Welcome to bikeforums BTW, are you in IN?
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Another thing, which goes towards advocacy, would be to speak to a council or city development agency and have them install an actual place to lock up a bike in the public sidewalk.
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Another option if you have wall space but aren't allowed to make holes, is to get a wall rack that leans against the wall rather than attaches to it:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delta-Cycle...s_id=550016011
If you can get the bike on it high enough, then the handlebars will be above your head and it'll take up very little usable space.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delta-Cycle...s_id=550016011
If you can get the bike on it high enough, then the handlebars will be above your head and it'll take up very little usable space.
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I just had another idea that might not be practical for you. Someone earlier mentioned chaining it to a 100 pound weight. A 5 gallon bucket of concrete weighs about that. Riding along today in a rural area I saw some mail box posts embedded in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete. How about going to Home Depot or similar, getting a bucket and a bag of redi-mix sort of concrete that you could simply mix with water in the bucket. Embed something in it to chain your bike to - the ground anchor type of thing would work great. The concrete mix wouldn't even have to be perfect because it's just permanent weight you're looking for.
Once you chain your bike to that, the thief would have to carry a bike and a 100 pound bucket. Even better if you take the handle off the bucket. You could place it somewhere discrete where the landlord wouldn't mind it being, maybe even a sheltered nook somewhere that would be better for the bike.
Bucket $5
concrete $10
Anchor $15
Bob's yer uncle.
Of course, this would not foil the most common theft tactic of simply cutting the lock, cable or chain, but nothing you would do would solve that. This would at least give you something to lock it to and eliminate the opportunist who steals just for the heck of it.
Once you chain your bike to that, the thief would have to carry a bike and a 100 pound bucket. Even better if you take the handle off the bucket. You could place it somewhere discrete where the landlord wouldn't mind it being, maybe even a sheltered nook somewhere that would be better for the bike.
Bucket $5
concrete $10
Anchor $15
Bob's yer uncle.
Of course, this would not foil the most common theft tactic of simply cutting the lock, cable or chain, but nothing you would do would solve that. This would at least give you something to lock it to and eliminate the opportunist who steals just for the heck of it.
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I'll throw this one out there for discussion. It's a screw-in ground anchor. You screw it into the ground. It would be hard to unscrew while the bike is locked to it. If you screw it in, just a bit below ground level, then you can cover it with some leaves or dirt and it would probably never be noticed.
I've thought about this because my kids are both college-age, and it's often hard to find a place to lock a bike around the cheap student rental houses, but also a hassle to carry the bike inside all the time.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vortex-1...RG-A/202703690
I've thought about this because my kids are both college-age, and it's often hard to find a place to lock a bike around the cheap student rental houses, but also a hassle to carry the bike inside all the time.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vortex-1...RG-A/202703690
I can't imagine whoever is responsible for maintaining the property would have any patience with this.
That the "lease is super, super strict" makes this idea much less an option.
Unless you also covered the bicycle "with some leaves or dirt", anybody seeing the bicycle (as an opportunity to steal), is going to notice what it's attached to very quickly. Heck, if it looks like the bicycle isn't attached to anything, it might encourage more people to investigate it.
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A reasonable property owner wouldn't allow such a mess. One providing a lease that is "super, super strict" is even less likely to allow it.
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A bike theft story...Last September, my kid moved into their freshman dorm at a large university. Adjacent to the parking lot, under the dorm building was the locked bike cage, filled with the bikes of eager young students. On the first night, the cage was broken into. The gate hinges were cut off, and every bike - but one - was stolen. They didn't break locks, they just cut the frame of the racks bolted to the ground. The ONLY surviving bike was locked to a structural support column with at least 5 U-locks.
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This:
Available any size they make pipe, at Most any
hardware. Chain, cable, U-lock won't slide up and over if wrapped tightly underneath. Paint it the same color of the post & they might not even notice. No more expensive than a cheap bike lock.
Welcome to bikeforums BTW, are you in IN?
Available any size they make pipe, at Most any
hardware. Chain, cable, U-lock won't slide up and over if wrapped tightly underneath. Paint it the same color of the post & they might not even notice. No more expensive than a cheap bike lock.
Welcome to bikeforums BTW, are you in IN?
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Yes, that pretty much ends the discussion (of keeping it outside).
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Just a few whacks with a hammer will mushroom the threads making it extremely unlikely. You would need an angle grinder just like any serious bike thief has on hand any way. Thieves are gonna get your bike if they really want it.
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Bolded the important part. This is reality. Even if they don't get it all, they will make it useless for you pretty quickly by taking the parts that are easy to take.
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What about something like this? I wouldn't necessarily put it right over the couch lest someone bonk their head, but anywhere you don't need to be within 45cm of the wall would work great.
edit: See my next post.
edit: See my next post.
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Sure, it was mentioned later (and should have been mentioned at the start) but it's also possible somebody else mentioned your idea.
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When I was living in a small apartment, I had a rack that leaned against the wall. I figured out how to fit 4 bikes on that thing.
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Could the bike be brought inside? Yes, but any time I'd want to use that area where it is, I'd have to move it. Move it from the kitchen to cook or from in front of the futon to get in and out or watch tv, from behind the futon to get to my bed or desk. It would be constant moving of the bike to get around this super tiny studio apartment.!
Benefit: Your bike till be well-rested and ready to ride fast the next day.
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If that dude can get his bike into his car (currently next thread over) you can get it into an apartment. I don’t think you’ve thought it through completely.
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Anyway, the post doesn't belong to the OP. Pu the bike in the apartment.
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With a little ingenuity you should be able to build a free-standing (no holes in walls or ceiling) elevated rack so you can hang the bike above a sofa or even on cables so you can lay it on its side and hoist it to the ceiling. Yes, it will be a pain to design and build .... and the feet might get int he way now and then .... but you presented us with a problem and pretty obviously, there is NO way to lock a bike to a smooth short concrete pylon.
Anything you attach to other people's property could leave you liable, and more so if somebody destroyed that property trying to get your bike. Anything Not firmly attached is not really a theft deterrent. While most serious thieves won't bother with a junk bike, the meth-heads and joy-riders will steal anything, even if they don't want it. You could wrap a huge chain around the bike so no one could ever ride it .... but then someone would just carry it away.
You need to get creative. You need to think outside the box. You need to be willing to put in a bunch of effort to create a situation which doesn't currently exist. Or ... you will need to keep buying cheap replacements for your oft-stolen bicycles.
Anything you attach to other people's property could leave you liable, and more so if somebody destroyed that property trying to get your bike. Anything Not firmly attached is not really a theft deterrent. While most serious thieves won't bother with a junk bike, the meth-heads and joy-riders will steal anything, even if they don't want it. You could wrap a huge chain around the bike so no one could ever ride it .... but then someone would just carry it away.
You need to get creative. You need to think outside the box. You need to be willing to put in a bunch of effort to create a situation which doesn't currently exist. Or ... you will need to keep buying cheap replacements for your oft-stolen bicycles.