Help ID Thrift Store find Fixie - no markings but Brooks seat & old looking handlebar
01-03-19, 01:02 PM
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Help ID Thrift Store find Fixie - no markings but Brooks seat & old looking handlebar
I found this today at a local thrift store - I bought it for $39 because I figured even if it's not a good bike the Brooks seat was worth that.
It also has some very old looking & very cool looking handlebars.
Can anyone tell what bike I got today?
I appreciate any help - if it can be found out, it'll be here!
It also has some very old looking & very cool looking handlebars.
Can anyone tell what bike I got today?
I appreciate any help - if it can be found out, it'll be here!
01-03-19, 01:15 PM
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I bet you could carefully strip the black paint and find the original decals.
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01-03-19, 02:01 PM
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Low end..Puch Bergmeister?? Bars are flipped, probably not a North road bar. but similar.
01-03-19, 02:25 PM
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Hard to say from the pics. It does have horizontal fork ends in the rear so perhaps it saw first use as a track bike. It does look like the fork ends may be replacements, though, brazed in to support the fixie image of the bike. Do the seat stay bridge and fork crown have drillings for brakes? If so, I would say that the frame was modified. My guess is that it's a mid level Asian-made bike of bike-boom vintage that's probably had other mods. Stripping the frame will reveal much.
Still, not a bad deal for the price you paid.
Still, not a bad deal for the price you paid.
01-03-19, 11:57 PM
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You're right. The Puch frame has those elegant, looong seat stay caps. Much classier than this BSO, whatever it is.
01-04-19, 12:20 AM
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it appears it's a freewheel and not a fixed gear....
01-04-19, 03:30 AM
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A track fork would not have double eyelets.
01-04-19, 06:36 AM
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Those not-track end track ends look suspiciously modern, even though the lugged frame says "1980's or early 1990's," and the fork crown says "don't even bother."
I tend to agree with what some have said here: Those ends look like they might have been brazed in later. However, I can't see where those stays would line up to a conventional dropout (unless it had really long upper tabs), and the wheelbase is tighter than I'd expect to allow for rear wheel clearance.
Do the chainstays look like they've been bent down a bit, by chance? I remember trying something similar with Mike Terraferma about 6-7 years ago on a junk Benotto 800, and this was one of the necessary adjustments due to the positioning of the track end tabs. Wasn't the only time someone did this in Miami either; this thing might be one of those oddballs from that fixie trend.
I really don't see any signs of a Puch here though. The fork crowns they used (that were similar to this one) were slightly scalloped at the bottom, not dead flat like this thing. I may be wrong.
I've yet to find a thrift store fixie in this town that isn't a flip-flop, set up on the freewheel side. I'm convinced that anyone who has ever sent one of these to pasture thought "fixed gear" was another phrase for "singlespeed," and only found out their folly when they actually rode the thing.
-Kurt
I tend to agree with what some have said here: Those ends look like they might have been brazed in later. However, I can't see where those stays would line up to a conventional dropout (unless it had really long upper tabs), and the wheelbase is tighter than I'd expect to allow for rear wheel clearance.
Do the chainstays look like they've been bent down a bit, by chance? I remember trying something similar with Mike Terraferma about 6-7 years ago on a junk Benotto 800, and this was one of the necessary adjustments due to the positioning of the track end tabs. Wasn't the only time someone did this in Miami either; this thing might be one of those oddballs from that fixie trend.
I really don't see any signs of a Puch here though. The fork crowns they used (that were similar to this one) were slightly scalloped at the bottom, not dead flat like this thing. I may be wrong.
I've yet to find a thrift store fixie in this town that isn't a flip-flop, set up on the freewheel side. I'm convinced that anyone who has ever sent one of these to pasture thought "fixed gear" was another phrase for "singlespeed," and only found out their folly when they actually rode the thing.
-Kurt
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01-04-19, 06:45 AM
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Sometimes you can overspend even when spending only $39. A lot depends on whether that saddle is salvageable or not.
01-04-19, 03:19 PM
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Agree dropouts look like replace-a-mentes.
Seat stay attachment suggests either Puch/Styria or else one of the German makers.
Better views of bridges and crown might be of assistance to readers...
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Agree dropouts look like replace-a-mentes.
Seat stay attachment suggests either Puch/Styria or else one of the German makers.
Better views of bridges and crown might be of assistance to readers...
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01-04-19, 11:07 PM
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IF the wheels and cranks are original to the bike, I'd guess this is a cheapo fixie from the last couple years. Either that or someone did a very complete conversion of an old lugged frame with some very cheap parts.
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I think this frame had regular road dropouts removed and the cheap fixie dropouts inserted. Something looks off about that drive side seatstay and how it meets the dropout.
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Frame appears it may be a Kalkhoff from circa 1970.
They built with these Agrati bits and did their serials in this placement & format.
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Most Kalkhoff products found in the U.S. were originally sold within the "German Triangle" area of the midwest.
https://statelinegenealogyclub.files...-triangle1.png
Possibly this one may have been brought to FLA by a retiree...
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Frame appears it may be a Kalkhoff from circa 1970.
They built with these Agrati bits and did their serials in this placement & format.
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Most Kalkhoff products found in the U.S. were originally sold within the "German Triangle" area of the midwest.
https://statelinegenealogyclub.files...-triangle1.png
Possibly this one may have been brought to FLA by a retiree...
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