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Old 01-20-23, 01:14 PM
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Must resist…..MUST RESIST!!!
You could always go with 9-speed!
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Originally Posted by datlas
I had heard the turning radius inside the shifter is quite small/tight and that is what causes fast wear/breakage. In any case, I have come to accept this and am sensitive to the earliest signs of cable fraying (subtle delay in going to the smaller cogs) and have a bunch of spare cables on the pegboard.

I have tried using the fancier coated cables but they seem to wear just as fast. It’s not really friction but repeated bending of the cable, I think, that causes the problem.
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When I was a ute, 13 or 14, I would steal 2 quarters from my mom's purse and I could get a pack of cigarettes and an RC Cola and have 3 cents change and get 3 more cents from returning the bottle.
When I was in high school, I had a small Italian motor cycle made by Harley Davidson and a dollar would fill the tank and get a pack of cigarettes. My afternoon was set.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
You could always go with 9-speed!
I hate to say this publicly since my wife and I own a combined stable of:

10 speed - 2
11 speed - 4
12 speed - 2

but, I always felt and still do, that 9 speed Shimano was amazing and bulletproof except for Shimano 9 speed bar end levers which are junk.
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Cable talk reminds me that I’ve never broken a cable on my tandem with Ultegra 10 speed at 5435 miles. Damn, I’ve probably jinxed myself.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I hate to say this publicly since my wife and I own a combined stable of:

10 speed - 2
11 speed - 4
12 speed - 2

but, I always felt and still do, that 9 speed Shimano was amazing and bulletproof except for Shimano 9 speed bar end levers which are junk.
Interestingly, 9 speeds is one thing I've never owned. I had 5 when I was a ute. The Cannondale I bought in 1995 had 7, which I converted to 8 a year later. The Ritchey (1997) had 8, converted to 10 in 2019. The Bianchi (2007) has 10. The Battaglin (built in 2007) has 10. The Canyon(2020) has 11, as does the Litespeed(built in 2022). My various C&V bike have 6, 7, or 8. But never 9. Funny, that.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
I never smoked but preferred kissing someone who did. It just tasted better. Long ago and in a land far away.
Yuck.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Must resist…..MUST RESIST!!!
Resistence is futile.
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One thing I like about 7-speed RSX and 8-speed 105 brifters is the metal cyclops caps.



Much better than the plastic ones that don't last very long for me, so I run around with unfinished-looking brifters:

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Disagree on the looks cool factor. Maybe once upon a time, but with all we know today, it just makes you look stupid. IMO
I was being facetious.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Cable talk reminds me that I’ve never broken a cable on my tandem with Ultegra 10 speed at 5435 miles. Damn, I’ve probably jinxed myself.
The 6600 shifters (cables come out of the side of hood) don’t break nearly as often as the 6700 (cable routed under bar tape). It seems the under-the-bar-tape design requires tighter turning radius of cable which we think leads to shorter lifespan.
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Our plane and accommodation reservations are in for our trip to Mallorca in April which will culminate with riding the 312. Now I have to figure best way to get my bike there. I am looking at a hard shell case on Craigslist that looks pretty good.
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Originally Posted by datlas
The 6600 shifters (cables come out of the side of hood) don’t break nearly as often as the 6700 (cable routed under bar tape). It seems the under-the-bar-tape design requires tighter turning radius of cable which we think leads to shorter lifespan.
Mine are 6700s.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
but, I always felt and still do, that 9 speed Shimano was amazing and bulletproof except for Shimano 9 speed bar end levers which are junk.
Agreed. I have 2 sets of Dura Ace 9s levers and derailleurs that still work perfectly. One set is on my 2001 Colnago. The first gen of Shimano 10s (before they went to hidden cables) was really good, too.
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Originally Posted by big john
Yuck.
"Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray."
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
When I was in high school, I had a small Italian motor cycle made by Harley Davidson and a dollar would fill the tank and get a pack of cigarettes. My afternoon was set.

Harley-Davidson : Other Harley Davidson Original Leggero 50cc Aermacchi 1971

https://www.smartcycleguide.com/L48172532One of these?

I had one I later replaced with a new Honda 1971 CL 350.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
My Mom smoked, from college age or younger till she was in her 70s. I never smoked for a variety of reasons. One was that I used to be assigned to wash the windows in her car, and the cigarettes left a tarry residue on them which I could see on the paper towel I was using. Another was watching her do what everyone did BITD - toss the lit butt out the window when she was done
I know a guy who works on European cars. He had a customer with a Lancia, mid or rear engine, with a complaint of low power. The air intake for the engine is right behind the driver's door and it was packed with cigarette butts choking off the engine.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Disagree on the looks cool factor. Maybe once upon a time, but with all we know today, it just makes you look stupid. IMO
It's so stupid it's sad. Addiction is a terrible thing.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
It's hard to imagine, nowadays, that you'd even think of smoking in a lab, but it happened.
The craziest thing about smoking that I can remember was BITD when you could smoke on airplanes. Soon after takeoff, as soon as the seatbelt sign went off, at least half the passengers would light up, all at the same time. Imagine all that smoke in a confined space . . . . it was insane!
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I, on the other hand, am the sort who will get nauseated if someone lights a cigarette across the street.

Literally.
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I, on the other hand, am the sort who will get nauseated if someone lights a cigarette across the street.

Literally.
Me too.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
The craziest thing about smoking that I can remember was BITD when you could smoke on airplanes. Soon after takeoff, as soon as the seatbelt sign went off, at least half the passengers would light up, all at the same time. Imagine all that smoke in a confined space . . . . it was insane!
I remember that as a kid when traveling overseas with my parents. Everything in the plane stunk like whatever was being smoked.

I do agree that the smell of a lit cigarette or pipe is nice. Almost relaxing on some level. My dad used to smoke pipes and I still remember his different Amphora tobacco packs around the house. He quit when I was a kid, but he kept one or two of the packs because he liked the smell.
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y’all are slacking this week.
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pedals/ cleats are still creaking. Unless it’s the BB, but I don’t think it’s that, if I twist my foot while clipped in, it squeaks.


being back at work blows. Currently in New York for the night.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
pedals/ cleats are still creaking. Unless it’s the BB, but I don’t think it’s that, if I twist my foot while clipped in, it squeaks.


being back at work blows. Currently in New York for the night.
Last time I had what seemed to be a creaking cleat, I tightened the screws by backing each one off like half a turn before tightening them down again, just to get rid of any kind of stiction. I can't remember whether it worked.
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