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Old 01-25-23, 12:44 PM
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Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.


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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.


Residential area. Slow down, ya maniac.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Residential area. Slow down, ya maniac.
The violation was the stop sign, not speeding.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The violation was the stop sign, not speeding.
The stop sign wasn't doing anything wrong.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.


Because of idiots who will not stop and look both ways, perhaps.

It could be on a school bus route.

It could be because it is close to a family center and kids will be walking, riding their bikes, and playing.

It could be because there are hearing and/or sight impaired people living close by.

It could be just for general principles.

Maybe you should find out. Or perhaps you did.

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Because of idiots who will not stop and look both ways, perhaps.

It could be on a school bus route.

It could be because it is close to a family center and kids will be walking, riding their bikes, and playing.

It could be because there are hearing and/or sight impaired people living close by.

It could be just for general principles.

Maybe you should find out. Or perhaps you did.
Incorrect.

If I had to come up with a reason, I'd say that it's because there's a bend in the road I was driving on. And if, unlike me, dangerous drivers are speeding through there. people turning from Landon Drive don't have a lot of time to see them.


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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.
No. Obey the law. End of discussion.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Incorrect.

If I had to come up with a reason, I'd say that it's because there's a bend in the road I was driving on. And if, unlike me, dangerous drivers are speeding through there. people turning from Landon Drive don't have a lot of time to see them.
Uh, huh.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.


Ask the people who live on Landon Dr.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
No. Obey the law. End of discussion.
Rules are for "other people". -- Velo Vol
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why does this intersection even need a four-way stop? Discuss.


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Incorrect.

If I had to come up with a reason, I'd say that it's because there's a bend in the road I was driving on. And if, unlike me, dangerous drivers are speeding through there. people turning from Landon Drive don't have a lot of time to see them.


If you know, then why did you ask? Duh.
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I'm the most law-abiding citizen here. BUT, rules need to be scrutinized to ensure they make sense.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I'm the most law-abiding citizen here. BUT, rules need to be scrutinized to ensure they make sense.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I'm the most law-abiding citizen here.
Doubtful.

BUT, rules need to be scrutinized to ensure they make sense.
That's not what you did.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The violation was the stop sign, not speeding.
Your speed was higher than stopped.
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In my business, we don't like unexplained things, but that's because my business involves finding explanations. Both our businesses, of course, involve a lot of troubleshooting, and if the problem merely ENDS, you haven't really shot the trouble, so to speak. Still, not having the trouble is in improvement over having it!
I never knew stuff could be so intermittent until I started doing diagnosis at a new car dealer.. Most of what turns on a check engine light is not repeatable. So you don't know why the code appears and if you do something to the car you don't know if it's fixed or if there was actually anything wrong in the first place. Then there are false codes, codes that appear on enough cars that the factory becomes aware of it and writes a program to address it.

I was involved in one such situation with a Volt. They used me to help determine it was a software issue. I drove 2 engineers around while they played on their computers and they had me fire the parts cannon at the car. They paid me for my time, which was nice.
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Law enforcement should be directing its efforts against the real menaces to society.

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I never knew stuff could be so intermittent until I started doing diagnosis at a new car dealer.. Most of what turns on a check engine light is not repeatable. So you don't know why the code appears and if you do something to the car you don't know if it's fixed or if there was actually anything wrong in the first place. Then there are false codes, codes that appear on enough cars that the factory becomes aware of it and writes a program to address it.

I was involved in one such situation with a Volt. They used me to help determine it was a software issue. I drove 2 engineers around while they played on their computers and they had me fire the parts cannon at the car. They paid me for my time, which was nice.
You may remember the drama we went through with Mrs. GJ's Sienna (thank you for your skepticism regarding buying new catalytic converters, BTW!). What a nightmare! I'm still amazed that, when we finally decided to go and do the elaborate "reset" drive, it had magically fixed itself.
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Law enforcement should be directing its efforts against the real menaces to society.

https://twitter.com/6News/status/1618354304976306176
In my experience, having been pulled over a number of times, it always helps to tell the cop that you pay his salary and he should be directing his efforts to alleviate the real menaces to society instead of you.
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In my experience, having been pulled over a number of times, it always helps to tell the cop that you pay his salary and he should be directing his efforts to alleviate the real menaces to society instead of you.
I watched a video of a cop enduring a rant from a woman he stopped. She had a suspended license and insisted he go chase real criminals. She was so obnoxious I don't know how he kept his cool.
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I watched a video of a cop enduring a rant from a woman he stopped. She had a suspended license and insisted he go chase real criminals. She was so obnoxious I don't know how he kept his cool.
First time I've been pulled over. I didn't say much at all to him. Initially I had a hard time understanding what he was saying. He asked if I was coming home from work. I said I was coming home from band practice, and said where it was.

I said thank you when he told me he was giving me a warning. That's basically it.
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First time I've been pulled over. I didn't say much at all to him. Initially I had a hard time understanding what he was saying. He asked if I was coming home from work. I said I was coming home from band practice, and said where it was.

I said thank you when he told me he was giving me a warning. That's basically it.
You need to get out more.
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You need to get out more.
...but stop more often.
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