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Old 10-05-13, 04:23 PM
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Product Liability Insurance Needed

After several years of product development I am finally launching a new product into the bicycling industry. I need guidance on product liability insurance for this. Any recomendations on where to purchase this type of insurance?
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It strikes me that you need to speak to a commercial insurance broker. Like so many threads that ask legal questions, you really need to speak to a professional to make sure that you are adequately protected both in transferring the risk to a carrier and to make sure you have properly protected yourself through incorporation.
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Originally Posted by Altair 4
It strikes me that you need to speak to a commercial insurance broker. Like so many threads that ask legal questions, you really need to speak to a professional to make sure that you are adequately protected both in transferring the risk to a carrier and to make sure you have properly protected yourself through incorporation.
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The smaller the operation the harder a coverage, like product liability, is to place. Since the price relative to a potential claim is low so, if you don't have a claim it doesn't help the underwriter's book of business measurably. If you do have a claim, it will blow his loss ratio out of the window.

I suspect your best bet would be to bundle the product coverage with some other, more easily underwritten coverages.
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As a fellow Lincolnite, could you tell us what the product is, and where I might see it?

And may I add that you really should have Insurance in this sue happy nation.
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And may I add that you really should have Insurance in this sue happy nation.
Insurance is a financial scheme for protecting your assets. If you don't have any assets, you have nothing to protect.
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No assets? With today lawyers he could find himself standing out in a field naked without any underlovlies!!
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As a fellow Lincolnite, could you tell us what the product is, and where I might see it?

And may I add that you really should have Insurance in this sue happy nation.
It is an adjustable handlebar.

Thing is, since he designed it and now selling it, if he provides a link to it- publicly, out in the open like in this thread- then he would be in violation of the Solicitation Guideline.
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Originally Posted by no1mad
It is an adjustable handlebar.

Thing is, since he designed it and now selling it, if he provides a link to it- publicly, out in the open like in this thread- then he would be in violation of the Solicitation Guideline.
He could also just get a premium membership and not have to worry.
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The EZRIDE Adjustable handlebars are not yet for sale.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
As a fellow Lincolnite, could you tell us what the product is, and where I might see it?

And may I add that you really should have Insurance in this sue happy nation.
Yes, give me a call and you can see and ride it.

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Originally Posted by bikeguy55
After several years of product development I am finally launching a new product into the bicycling industry. I need guidance on product liability insurance for this. Any recomendations on where to purchase this type of insurance?
Thanks in Advance
Warning: I am not an expert, but I am on a similar path.

I have been told by a couple different persons with experience in 1-person manufacturing (in the USA) that "the way it is usually done" is that you don't have product liability insurance. Nobody will cover you for a reasonable cost.

What you do is move all of your business assets into an LLC and save part of the profit into a legal fund under the LLC. If/when you get sued (one or more times) and then once the legal fund is gone, the LLC goes away too.

If you are just re-selling the item, the liability is much less cost and easier to get.... but if you originated the item's design specifications, you could still be considered to be the manufacturer. So sending CAD files to China and then claiming "its their fault" isn't going to work.
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[QUOTE=bikeguy55;16137154]Yes, give me a call and you can see and ride it.{/QUOTE] Might I remind you this is a public forum? Anyone who uses google can find it. You might want to remove your phone number.

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Originally Posted by walrus1
Might I remind you this is a public forum? Anyone who uses google can find it. You might want to remove your phone number.
But the number's still visible because you quoted him,so you need to edit your post as well.
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Originally Posted by Doug5150
Warning: I am not an expert, but I am on a similar path.

I have been told by a couple different persons with experience in 1-person manufacturing (in the USA) that "the way it is usually done" is that you don't have product liability insurance. Nobody will cover you for a reasonable cost.

What you do is move all of your business assets into an LLC and save part of the profit into a legal fund under the LLC. If/when you get sued (one or more times) and then once the legal fund is gone, the LLC goes away too.

If you are just re-selling the item, the liability is much less cost and easier to get.... but if you originated the item's design specifications, you could still be considered to be the manufacturer. So sending CAD files to China and then claiming "its their fault" isn't going to work.
From My Lawyer,
My contact had no leads on any rogue insurance companies who specialize in small production manufacturing. We did chat about the idea of simply shielding yourself with the LLC umbrella. In your case, you have two umbrellas. Next time we get together lets chat about other things to do to thicken the corporate veil.
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Originally Posted by bikeguy55
From My Lawyer,
My contact had no leads on any rogue insurance companies who specialize in small production manufacturing. We did chat about the idea of simply shielding yourself with the LLC umbrella. In your case, you have two umbrellas. Next time we get together lets chat about other things to do to thicken the corporate veil.

This is from 2013....probably already has insurance....or not.
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Originally Posted by Altair 4
It strikes me that you need to speak to a commercial insurance broker. Like so many threads that ask legal questions, you really need to speak to a professional to make sure that you are adequately protected both in transferring the risk to a carrier and to make sure you have properly protected yourself through incorporation.
You mean asking advice on the internet is not the best way to handle important matters regarding starting a business?
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Weird. I think it must have been a spammer who revived this, his post has disappeared. Probably should have locked it.
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Weird. I think it must have been a spammer who revived this, his post has disappeared. Probably should have locked it.

Yea wow...that is odd...
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Weird. I think it must have been a spammer who revived this, his post has disappeared. Probably should have locked it.
I think I reported it and was expecting a lock.
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yeah, this thread seems like a spammer magnet. closing
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