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Old 07-08-23, 06:48 AM
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I’d recommend visiting Ben’s sometime for a future visit. The building they’re in used to be an old movie theater. Their warehouse occupies where the seats were all on two floors. .
When I was looking for shifters for my S5 hub they sent me back there telling me to "Look around up there"
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My question: Is there a framebuilder, or company out there who produces vintage, but modern mountain bike and road frames with quill stems? If there is, I sure like to find out about them.
Custom. Well, sure.

Standard production? Off the top of my head...

Pashley. Some Breezer models. Detroit. Worksman.
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I have an idea. Come to Portland OR Aug 22-24 for the MADE show. Most the hand made builders in the US will be here.

I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.

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Originally Posted by twolve
Curt is not longer building bike frames unfortunately. But if you can find one that fits, I promise it will be worth it!

A close friend has a 650b Goodrich that is my size.

Someday he will get bored and I will definitely get first grab.

Yours looks outstanding!!!!
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Steve Rex will do all kinds of custom options. He specializes in fillet brazing but has nice lugs too. Very classy looks, and lots of NorCal fans especially the CX folks. He might try to talk you out of a quill stem though.
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Originally Posted by tcs
Custom. Well, sure.

Standard production? Off the top of my head...

Pashley. Some Breezer models. Detroit. Worksman.
Pashley used to make this great light tourer called the Clubman. Bike looked like a hand polished Rolls Royce.
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Originally Posted by Robvolz
I have an idea. Come to Portland OR Aug 22-24 for the MADE show. Most the hand made builders in the US will be here.

I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.

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Let me guess, Llewellyn?
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Originally Posted by Writenride
What kind of tubing did Kirk use? Gosh, it almost looks oversize, or maybe the color is playing with my eyes.
This is a JK special, which dave recommended after doing the questionnaire and measurements, which was a bit of a surprise as it is the 'raciest" but it is so nice (note there is not an ounce of upsell with dave, he will give honest opinion, example: i saw bike of his with stainless stays and forks which simulate classic chrome. he steered me away from that for issue like ride not matching and long term paint issue and noted the one I saw was intended by the owner to be a wall hanger)

per Dave's site in a couple of places

The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853 Pro. The tubing is designed to give a solid and responsive ride without the harshness all too many races bikes are known for and this makes the JKS a race bike you want to spend all day on.

The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and has a moderate slope to the top tube. It can be made with traditional straight seat stays or the optional curved Terraplane stays to up the performance on less than perfect surfaces one more notch. This, and all versions of the JKS, use the Kirk Triple F dropouts to make things simple, strong and light.
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
This is a JK special, which dave recommended after doing the questionnaire and measurements, which was a bit of a surprise as it is the 'raciest" but it is so nice (note there is not an ounce of upsell with dave, he will give honest opinion, example: i saw bike of his with stainless stays and forks which simulate classic chrome. he steered me away from that for issue like ride not matching and long term paint issue and noted the one I saw was intended by the owner to be a wall hanger)

per Dave's site in a couple of places

The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853 Pro. The tubing is designed to give a solid and responsive ride without the harshness all too many races bikes are known for and this makes the JKS a race bike you want to spend all day on.

The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and has a moderate slope to the top tube. It can be made with traditional straight seat stays or the optional curved Terraplane stays to up the performance on less than perfect surfaces one more notch. This, and all versions of the JKS, use the Kirk Triple F dropouts to make things simple, strong and light.
That is quite impressive. I’ve seen Llewelyn’s work for years, along with his enthusiasm toward steam engines via Flickr.

Since Columbus came out with the Cento tube set in correlation with their 100th Anniversary, seeing Dave Kirk’s work on that green bike struck similarly in tube diameters, namely in the main triangle. I guess why I thought that bike was so amazing.
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Originally Posted by Writenride
That is quite impressive. I’ve seen Llewelyn’s work for years, along with his enthusiasm toward steam engines via Flickr.

Since Columbus came out with the Cento tube set in correlation with their 100th Anniversary, seeing Dave Kirk’s work on that green bike struck similarly in tube diameters, namely in the main triangle. I guess why I thought that bike was so amazing.
The kirk just wants to go......even on just 5 miles to work in the morning I find myself in the drops and pushing, with big smile. The only other bike that came close is my 84 team miyata.
I am building a set of tubular wheels it will be fun to compare the 32 mm rene hearse with 29mm FMB cobblestone on Nemsis rims
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
YMMV but not in person was not an issue for me with Dave Kirk. 99% of his frames are not in person. He even caught that I was riding with my seat too low from measurements. I had chatted with him at cino 2021, but that was more about disk vs rim brake.
Similarly, Peter Mooney worked from FitKit measurements and photos, and I'm more than happy with how I sit on the bikes. He too bumped my seat up a bit from the Guimard/Hinault/Lemond style fit I was riding.
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Originally Posted by gomango
A close friend has a 650b Goodrich that is my size.

Someday he will get bored and I will definitely get first grab.

Yours looks outstanding!!!!
Thanks! An unfortunate shipping experience led to a new Chris Kvale paint job and new fenders, now it's like a new bike again.

I know you've had a lot of nice bikes, but I think you'd be happy with that Goodrich someday!
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
YMMV but not in person was not an issue for me with Dave Kirk. 99% of his frames are not in person. He even caught that I was riding with my seat too low from measurements. I had chatted with him at cino 2021, but that was more about disk vs rim brake.

of course everyone has their own comfort level
The too-low saddle height is the main problem I find myself having to explain to people (who later are almost universally thankful for their corrections).

With a low saddle height, the rider finds themself feeling the rear edge of the saddle top, so the intuitive tendency is the saddle getting moved rearward.
With the saddle moved upward and forward, the rider not only achieves a more-aero profile without having to bend sharply at the waist, they also discover a relatively effortless transition from seated to standing, so the process is quicker and gets done more often according to the whims of the grade of the road you could say.
This helps riders of vintage bikes (having limited gearing) by allowing greater leg extension from standing to thus spare stress on one's knees.
The saddle usually gets leveled out in the process, and the bike's high-speed stability improves greatly.

While the upper body adapts to the added weight borne by the arms, it's mostly the rider's neck that may end up defining the limit of how far forward that the rider can ride.

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Originally Posted by Writenride
Pashley used to make this great light tourer called the Clubman. Bike looked like a hand polished Rolls Royce.
British Bike Company claims they have some in stock. Charge card & Bob's your uncle.

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I sold 2 Rivendell’s and bought these.

Jeff Lyon is the builder.

Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.

Geometry details:
Top tube length 58cm c-c (level)
Seat tube length 59cm c-c
Seattube angle 72.5 degrees
Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
Head tube length 178mm
BB drop 78mm
Chainstay length 44cm
Fork rake 58mm






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Originally Posted by fender1
I sold 2 Rivendell’s and bought these.

Jeff Lyon is the builder.

Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.
Is Jeff Lyon still building? I might have to start saving pennies.
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Is Jeff Lyon still building? I might have to start saving pennies.
Looks like it:

https://lavecaise.wordpress.com/about/

FWIW, The green frame was built in 2022.
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Plenty of fantastic builders making frames all over the country right now.

The MADE show next month here has almost 300 exhibitors so far and many that we have called out here are not on the list so anybody looking to have a frame built should have no trouble finding a builder no matter where they are.

https://made.bike/registration/
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If you can find a SOMA Stanyan you'd probably be happy with it I think it is a wonderful lugged frame and very stylish even though its not a custom built frame, I get compliments on mine all the time . I am a big sad that SOMA has mostly started making all disc brake frames save one or two . If the Pescadaro was lugged I would have probably already bought one and may still do so simply because it will take center pulls.
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I don't run the show, but it would be cool if there were a sticky for active framebuilders (steel, but not necessarily C&V.)
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I don't run the show, but it would be cool if there were a sticky for active framebuilders (steel, but not necessarily C&V.)
There is one over at paceline, under the custom builders section. It's even broken down by state.
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
Milwaukee Bike Co frames were made by Waterford, which is closed. Not available on Ben’s website for now. Hopefully they find another frame builder, although the draw for me, was the Waterford built frame.
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Let me guess, Llewellyn?
He wishes
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
The kirk just wants to go......even on just 5 miles to work in the morning I find myself in the drops and pushing, with big smile. The only other bike that came close is my 84 team miyata.
I am building a set of tubular wheels it will be fun to compare the 32 mm rene hearse with 29mm FMB cobblestone on Nemsis rims
Off topic but I cannot resist. Picked up that rusty Pro Miyata frame ('83) last summer and decked it out with Cyclone brakes and derailleurs, GEL330 tubular rims, 23c and 25c Veloflex rubber. (Nearly the biggest that will fit. Even number widths are hard to find.) That bike! That ride! Takes me back to the race bike I loved. And pushes me to ride harder!)
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