Who makes Rivendell-type bicycles & bicycle frames?
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When I was looking for shifters for my S5 hub they sent me back there telling me to "Look around up there"
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Standard production? Off the top of my head...
Pashley. Some Breezer models. Detroit. Worksman.
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I have an idea. Come to Portland OR Aug 22-24 for the MADE show. Most the hand made builders in the US will be here.
I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.
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I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.
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https://rexcycles.com/
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Steve Rex will do all kinds of custom options. He specializes in fillet brazing but has nice lugs too. Very classy looks, and lots of NorCal fans especially the CX folks. He might try to talk you out of a quill stem though.
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Steve Rex will do all kinds of custom options. He specializes in fillet brazing but has nice lugs too. Very classy looks, and lots of NorCal fans especially the CX folks. He might try to talk you out of a quill stem though.
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I have an idea. Come to Portland OR Aug 22-24 for the MADE show. Most the hand made builders in the US will be here.
I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.
Message me
Robert
I gave my spare room to the top builder from Australia who is staying with me, but I have a couch and bedding and plenty of bikes to loan if you need a ride.
Message me
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per Dave's site in a couple of places
The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853 Pro. The tubing is designed to give a solid and responsive ride without the harshness all too many races bikes are known for and this makes the JKS a race bike you want to spend all day on.
The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and has a moderate slope to the top tube. It can be made with traditional straight seat stays or the optional curved Terraplane stays to up the performance on less than perfect surfaces one more notch. This, and all versions of the JKS, use the Kirk Triple F dropouts to make things simple, strong and light.
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This is a JK special, which dave recommended after doing the questionnaire and measurements, which was a bit of a surprise as it is the 'raciest" but it is so nice (note there is not an ounce of upsell with dave, he will give honest opinion, example: i saw bike of his with stainless stays and forks which simulate classic chrome. he steered me away from that for issue like ride not matching and long term paint issue and noted the one I saw was intended by the owner to be a wall hanger)
per Dave's site in a couple of places
The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853 Pro. The tubing is designed to give a solid and responsive ride without the harshness all too many races bikes are known for and this makes the JKS a race bike you want to spend all day on.
The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and has a moderate slope to the top tube. It can be made with traditional straight seat stays or the optional curved Terraplane stays to up the performance on less than perfect surfaces one more notch. This, and all versions of the JKS, use the Kirk Triple F dropouts to make things simple, strong and light.
per Dave's site in a couple of places
The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853 Pro. The tubing is designed to give a solid and responsive ride without the harshness all too many races bikes are known for and this makes the JKS a race bike you want to spend all day on.
The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and has a moderate slope to the top tube. It can be made with traditional straight seat stays or the optional curved Terraplane stays to up the performance on less than perfect surfaces one more notch. This, and all versions of the JKS, use the Kirk Triple F dropouts to make things simple, strong and light.
Since Columbus came out with the Cento tube set in correlation with their 100th Anniversary, seeing Dave Kirk’s work on that green bike struck similarly in tube diameters, namely in the main triangle. I guess why I thought that bike was so amazing.
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That is quite impressive. I’ve seen Llewelyn’s work for years, along with his enthusiasm toward steam engines via Flickr.
Since Columbus came out with the Cento tube set in correlation with their 100th Anniversary, seeing Dave Kirk’s work on that green bike struck similarly in tube diameters, namely in the main triangle. I guess why I thought that bike was so amazing.
Since Columbus came out with the Cento tube set in correlation with their 100th Anniversary, seeing Dave Kirk’s work on that green bike struck similarly in tube diameters, namely in the main triangle. I guess why I thought that bike was so amazing.
I am building a set of tubular wheels it will be fun to compare the 32 mm rene hearse with 29mm FMB cobblestone on Nemsis rims
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Similarly, Peter Mooney worked from FitKit measurements and photos, and I'm more than happy with how I sit on the bikes. He too bumped my seat up a bit from the Guimard/Hinault/Lemond style fit I was riding.
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I know you've had a lot of nice bikes, but I think you'd be happy with that Goodrich someday!
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YMMV but not in person was not an issue for me with Dave Kirk. 99% of his frames are not in person. He even caught that I was riding with my seat too low from measurements. I had chatted with him at cino 2021, but that was more about disk vs rim brake.
of course everyone has their own comfort level
of course everyone has their own comfort level
With a low saddle height, the rider finds themself feeling the rear edge of the saddle top, so the intuitive tendency is the saddle getting moved rearward.
With the saddle moved upward and forward, the rider not only achieves a more-aero profile without having to bend sharply at the waist, they also discover a relatively effortless transition from seated to standing, so the process is quicker and gets done more often according to the whims of the grade of the road you could say.
This helps riders of vintage bikes (having limited gearing) by allowing greater leg extension from standing to thus spare stress on one's knees.
The saddle usually gets leveled out in the process, and the bike's high-speed stability improves greatly.
While the upper body adapts to the added weight borne by the arms, it's mostly the rider's neck that may end up defining the limit of how far forward that the rider can ride.
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I sold 2 Rivendell’s and bought these.
Jeff Lyon is the builder.
Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.
Geometry details:
Top tube length 58cm c-c (level)
Seat tube length 59cm c-c
Seattube angle 72.5 degrees
Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
Head tube length 178mm
BB drop 78mm
Chainstay length 44cm
Fork rake 58mm
Jeff Lyon is the builder.
Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.
Geometry details:
Top tube length 58cm c-c (level)
Seat tube length 59cm c-c
Seattube angle 72.5 degrees
Headtube angle 72.5 degrees
Head tube length 178mm
BB drop 78mm
Chainstay length 44cm
Fork rake 58mm
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I sold 2 Rivendell’s and bought these.
Jeff Lyon is the builder.
Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.
Jeff Lyon is the builder.
Lyon L'Avecaise 700c randonnering bikes. Made from thin-wall tubing (28mm 7-4-7 top tube, 32mm down tube) for the right flex characteristics according to the Bicycle Quarterly approach. Designed for a 6ft tall rider weighing 200lbs, made to fit 700x35mm tires (actual width) with fenders.
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Plenty of fantastic builders making frames all over the country right now.
The MADE show next month here has almost 300 exhibitors so far and many that we have called out here are not on the list so anybody looking to have a frame built should have no trouble finding a builder no matter where they are.
https://made.bike/registration/
The MADE show next month here has almost 300 exhibitors so far and many that we have called out here are not on the list so anybody looking to have a frame built should have no trouble finding a builder no matter where they are.
https://made.bike/registration/
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If you can find a SOMA Stanyan you'd probably be happy with it I think it is a wonderful lugged frame and very stylish even though its not a custom built frame, I get compliments on mine all the time . I am a big sad that SOMA has mostly started making all disc brake frames save one or two . If the Pescadaro was lugged I would have probably already bought one and may still do so simply because it will take center pulls.
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I don't run the show, but it would be cool if there were a sticky for active framebuilders (steel, but not necessarily C&V.)
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There is one over at paceline, under the custom builders section. It's even broken down by state.
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The kirk just wants to go......even on just 5 miles to work in the morning I find myself in the drops and pushing, with big smile. The only other bike that came close is my 84 team miyata.
I am building a set of tubular wheels it will be fun to compare the 32 mm rene hearse with 29mm FMB cobblestone on Nemsis rims
I am building a set of tubular wheels it will be fun to compare the 32 mm rene hearse with 29mm FMB cobblestone on Nemsis rims