72 batavuas Type Champion
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12-15-20, 04:44 PM
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appears to me to be angle (from above) combined with a turn rightward. Can see the other blade through spokes. Will def confirm in person
12-15-20, 04:59 PM
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Still wondering on how to value - it appears like it may be gas pipe, no braze ons for bottle cage, wingnuts on axle, cottered crank, but then I see campy bits and nice lugwork
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12-15-20, 05:44 PM
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Will leave this as a warning for anyone coming across this - seller got really cagey when i asked for better side view photo. Then he started going on about how many nice bikes (PX-10) he owns and that some of them are also designed to appear like they had a head on collision. According to specs this is a gas pipe low end but he said some of them came with campy, maybe but doubtful. I suspect he threw a couple bits on and since there’s not much on batavus generally online ppl may be fooled.
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12-15-20, 07:54 PM
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I had the next model up, the Tour de l’Europe, which was essentially the same frame as the Champion and the Monte Carlo, just different parts. Non-descript tubing, Bocama lugs, ESGE/Pletscher flat brake bridge and kickstand plates. The Champion was comparable to a Peugeot A-08, and the stock derailleur set was Simplex Prestige I think. The pictured Campagnolo Velox or Valentino units are replacements.
While I wouldn’t mind picking up a Tour de l’Europe cheap somewhere, it would purely be an exercise in nostalgia. There are nicer gaspipe bike boom bikes out there.
While I wouldn’t mind picking up a Tour de l’Europe cheap somewhere, it would purely be an exercise in nostalgia. There are nicer gaspipe bike boom bikes out there.
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12-17-20, 04:29 PM
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The Velox/Valentino derailleurs could well have been original, they were Campagnolo's absolute bottom of the barrel line and were sold solely to get a high-end name associated with a low-end bike, kind of like how Shimano Tourney derailleurs are a selling point on today's department store bikes. It's an unremarkable bike-boom 10 speed, just one step above entry level. The pleasures of riding a good steel frame are not present in bikes of this quality so that may account for how little use it has received over the decades.
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Unless you're an avid collector of entry level bikes with bent forks, I'd say pass on this one.
The Champion was Batavus' entry level model. Gas pipe, steel rims, stem shifters, the works. Build and paint quality will be excellent, and with proper care it will last well into the 22nd century, but if you're looking for an enticing ride, look elsewhere. If you like Batavus (which I do, BTW), look for the higher end models, such as the Competition, Criterium and Professional.
The Champion was Batavus' entry level model. Gas pipe, steel rims, stem shifters, the works. Build and paint quality will be excellent, and with proper care it will last well into the 22nd century, but if you're looking for an enticing ride, look elsewhere. If you like Batavus (which I do, BTW), look for the higher end models, such as the Competition, Criterium and Professional.
12-19-20, 12:49 PM
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I like the rear reflector and and wing nuts but agree the fork may be dodgey. Frankly I don't really see any thing special about this bike if it has a simplex or shipmano Eagle Rd we'd be calling it another Boom Bike yes?
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12-19-20, 02:56 PM
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The Campy bits look to be second generation Valentino bottom end bike boom stuff actually some of the worst mass produced parts ever made so IMHO they actually detract from value on this level bike.
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