PeteHski

That was my point. A dedicated gravel bike makes sense if you are going to be regularly running 40 mm tyres, but not so much if 32 mm is wide enough for all your roads.

I agree that lower gravel gearing could be useful if the OP considers modern compact road gearing is still too high. But for most road riders a 1:1 lowest gear is low enough.

mstateglfr 

Warranty work has to be one of the least important factors when I consider buying a frame. Doubly so since I have never purchased a new full bike. Not gonna get much warranty support that route. And it has yet to burn me. Can't say I am concerned it will burn me in the near future either.

No warranty for used frames, the frames I've bought new had warranties I'm sure, but I certainly never looked at them, and if a component breaks I'll just buy a replacement rather than take time to register the initial purchase and fight over a replacement.

...but I don't have an electronic shifting drivetrain or carbon frames that are poorly designed or manufactured to the point of being out of tolerance or cables that wear away a steerer.


As for your pride in shopping local, cool. You do realize that there are a lot of brands that aren't local and also not large corporations, right? It doesn't need to be one or the other.

PeteHski

With Canyon the savings are simply too high to ignore if you like their bikes. Plus my LBS sucks so I now avoid using it. Warranty work with Canyon might be more time consuming, which doesn't really bother me.

Jughed

Figure you save $1500 with the Canyon vs a different big brand name. In some cases, you save more with the Canyon.

Both bikes will have similar decent equipment with low failure rates. Say is a 105 bike and the rear mech fails - warranty covers the equipment, but typically the labor cost is on you.
-$50 part covered, $40 out of pocket for the labor.
-Buy the part on your own and install yourself - you're out $10.

I've had my freehub replaced twice under warranty, $40 labor both times.

And those parts are only covered for 2 years, and subject to scrutiny - misuse, normal wear and tear - not covered.

So, you are down to the frame/fork - that would be about the only thing you would have to send the bike back to Canyon for. This will be a rare event with any bike.

But you saved $1500 up front - paying out of pocket for small items, that may not be covered anyway, and you would need to pay for the labor...

I don't see any disadvantages warranty wise.

genejockey 

I wouldn't bother buying a gravel bike for "occasional gravel", since the Endurace will fit tires that should work for "occasional gravel". My Endurace CF SL 7 has 52/36 x 11-34, and it's good for any climb I care to do. In fact the 36x34 is too low for a lot of them.

cweb99

This is a beauty and can’t beat that price. Talked to some Canyon owners today and there was nothing but good things they said.


and red goes faster then any other bike on the market

im going with this. Thanks all for your input

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...ahmengroesse=S

jadmt

that is a great deal.

Jklotz

That IS a good deal! Not much you can't do with that bike. I think it will be awesome for you. Congrats!

Mtracer

Should be great, And red does go faster. It just does. Some weird metaphysical reason for that.

mstateglfr 

Really great deal, if the geometry of the frame and cockpit fit.
Ultegra, power meter, quality stock tires...makes for a great deal.

scottfsmith

Late to the party here but wanted to give my two bits on the future shock. It is not needed much at all on good roads. It doesn’t do much on mildly bumpy roads with 32mm tires. For rougher roads it definitely helps even with 32mm tires. But bump those tires up to 35mm and again the future shock isn’t adding much at all.

I have lots of really bad roads and 30mm tires so I definitely appreciate it in spots. The Roubaix is also a much better gravel bike with the wider tires the new model can take. Still I agree it’s impossible to justify over the Canyon in terms of the value proposition.

Sierra_rider

Another late-to-the-party response, but I own a few different Canyons. My Endurace CF SL is an older model(2020,) but has been almost flawless. The official max tire width on mine is 30mm, but I've had 33mm 'cross tires on it at times in the past. I don't need that now, since I've gotten a gravel bike, but it had plenty of clearance in dry conditions for the 33s.

PeteHski

For sure that is the sweetspot in the Canyon range for performance per $. Unbeatable value. Enjoy!

Jughed

That is an awesome deal.


I was looking at that bike during Rona times. It was an 8+ month wait, and I believe the 105 version cost more at that time.


Here is a good dollar for dollar comparison:
My aluminum Emonda with 105, close to 2#'s heavier, no power meter, was only $150 cheaper than your Canyon.

eduskator

I saw the new Roubaix S-WORKS over the weekend at an event - it's a nice looking bike. Doesn't come with integrated cables though because of the future shock. To me it's a big no no, especially at a 14-15k price tag, but I know that a lot of cyclists don't mind cables showing.

Money wise, I'd go with the Canyon and hope you don't run into any troubles (we don't have retailers here so warranty claims are done abroad).

Jklotz

Maybe I've been lucky, but in all these years of riding, I don't think I've ever had a warranty claim with a bike.

cweb99

So I missed the boat for size. Hoping they make my size in stock again. The few biggest things that caught my eye was the seat post and semi aero bars over the CF 7.

cweb99

Update

im now saving for the CF SLX. Twice the price yet this will be my last bike purchase so I’m going big.


https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road-bi...nfarbe=BK%2FBK

Iride01 

Thanks for the update.

I'm just a little incredulous that this is slated to be your last bike purchase. I certainly hope I haven't made my last bike purchase. At 65 y.o., I think there should be at least 3 or 4 more bikes in my future. Maybe more.

cweb99

lol. I figured I bought my last road bike in 2015. Now I want an endurance bike.

jadmt

ditto at 65 I hope I have a lot of bikes and even more fast cars and offroad vehicles left in my bones. just got in from a 60 mile ride on my canyon cf8 and thinking a really lightweight steel bike is in my future....

Jrasero

I would go Canyon Endurace but it depends on what you ride. IMO the Roubaix is more of faux gravel bike but more so an all-road bike and the Endurace is a bike that could dabble in some allroad and even gravel but really it's a tarmac bound bike. I feel the complexity, cost, and thus the cost repair the Roubaix isn't worth it. I think the Future Shock is cool but I wouldn't really want it unless I went full on gravel, but by that point I would just get the Diverge STR.

If I were looking for an endurance bike today it would be the Canyon Endurace or the new Giant Defy

Paradox77

I also went with Canyon the SLX. Hope I made the right choice.

PeteHski

I think I would only get the Roubaix if I was riding on cobble stones, where the FutureShock probably is a major benefit. My Endurace and Defy both cope very well with rough normal roads without suspension. Wider tyres at lower pressures have kind of made FutureShock redundant for road use.

cweb99

Yeah I think I need more @$$ comfort then hands. I’m so pumped to get that SLX with Di2. I’m gonna hit the show room and test ride it next week.