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Old 12-24-16, 03:25 PM
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Panasonic making a comeback?

Not much info out there yet but it looks like their making Steel Bikes again.

https://cycle.panasonic.jp/products/pos/info/index.html
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Looks like it. That modern one looks pretty nice, too. I downloaded the catalog, but it's still all in Japanese.
Very interesting. First impression: they've rounded up some frame builders and are taking orders. Lotta yen, I bet.
Based on their history, they'll be very well made, high level of fit and finish.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Looks like it. That modern one looks pretty nice, too. I downloaded the catalog, but it's still all in Japanese.
Very interesting. First impression: they've rounded up some frame builders and are taking orders. Lotta yen, I bet.
Based on their history, they'll be very well made, high level of fit and finish.
The endurance road, cyclocross and touring models caught my eye.

It will be interesting to see if they come with a network here or go direct online.

Or maybe not at all?
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The ORCC 01 frameset is very cool looking. Tange Prestige I guess. It's on sale for 114,750 yen (@ $980). And no clue how to order it, that order sheet pdf is jacked up.

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Glad to see I'm not the only one who's curious.
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I thought they had been making bikes all this time, just not for NA market.
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I thought they had been making bikes all this time, just not for NA market.
This was my understanding too...bikes are important to the family and they've always been commited to selling bikes. I'm pretty sure I saw some literature about ordering one a few years ago.
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I had thought lately they had just been concentrating on ebikes.
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Saw that catalog pop u on Retrobike last week. Beautiful bikes, but expensive.
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Saw that catalog pop u on Retrobike last week. Beautiful bikes, but expensive.
What's expensive now for a bike?
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what's expensive now for a bike?
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I like the fact that there is the opportunity to do a lot of customization....provided you are willing to pay the price.
I wonder how they will compare (ride wise) to the CV stuff, group set not withstanding?Nice looking bikes nonetheless
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
What's expensive now for a bike?
Touché. I don't do new bikes, and they all seem very expensive to me. I like the ORCC 31, priced at around $2,000. Compared to new carpet fiber bikes, that may actually be quite reasonable.

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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Touché. I don't do new bikes, and they all seem very expensive to me. I like the ORCC 31, priced at around $2,000. Compared to new carpet fiber bikes, that may actually be quite reasonable.
On sale for $1652 if you can manage to order one.


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Man, that new style crankset is an eyesore on an classic steel frame.
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Man, that new style crankset is an eyesore on an classic steel frame.
Sure is but who even makes a 5 arm crank new anymore?
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It could be worse. What if Panasonic chose to go with this:
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Touché. I don't do new bikes, and they all seem very expensive to me. I like the ORCC 31, priced at around $2,000. Compared to new carpet fiber bikes, that may actually be quite reasonable.
That red and black fade is really cool!
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Originally Posted by DanBF
Man, that new style crankset is an eyesore on an classic steel frame.
Friendly suggestion- dont go into the 'retro roadies with STI' thread.
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Originally Posted by DanBF
It could be worse. What if Panasonic chose to go with this:
Looks great on the right bike.

I've seen the groupset on a De Rosa Corum and it worked.

I would suggest the "c&v" crowd won't have a big buy in for most of the new Shimano, Campy or SRAM offerings.

All of the companies should always keep a "classic" groupset in their line up. imho
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It could be worse. What if Panasonic chose to go with this:
Sadly, +1
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I have often wondered why Campagnolo has not offered a limited edition retro group set. Like 80's SR. They must see the demand for it, and the prices NOS goes for. As long as they don't price it so us mere mortals can't afford it. To me their Chrome offerings leave something to be desired aesthetically
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
I have often wondered why Campagnolo has not offered a limited edition retro group set. Like 80's SR. They must see the demand for it, and the prices NOS goes for. As long as they don't price it so us mere mortals can't afford it. To me their Chrome offerings leave something to be desired aesthetically
Never going to happen.
Besides that is why God gave us eb@y.
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It could be worse. What if Panasonic chose to go with this:
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
I had thought lately they had just been concentrating on ebikes.
You could still order a pista frame all along, Panasonic has always had a bit of a presence making bikes for the keirin Circuit.

Around 1200$ through Yellow Jersey IIRC, - so not bad for a made to order steel frameset in this day
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