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Early Summer Ride in Arizona
My coach had assigned an 80-90 mile hilly ride for today. I convinced her that part of that should be a group ride with a local LBS club, starting in East Mesa, Arizona, which is East of Phoenix. I planned to do 80 miles, with about 5K of climbing, on this route:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/400613
The ride started at 6:00, and I had to leave the house about 5:00. I did the 31 mile group ride, with 1.5K of climbing, then split from them and headed even further East, up North Apache Trail, towards "Tortilla Flat", a popular distination for those who want to climb. I had not been there before, newbie that I am. If you keep going past Tortilla Flat, you reach "End of Pavement", or "EOP" as it is known. I ended up turning around here, at Canyon Lake:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00071.jpg)
I was only carrying 2 bottles, and one was empty. It's dangerous in Arizona to have to conserve your water supply, so after riding through the picnic areas and not finding a water spigot or fountain, I turned around. It was only when I was well on my way back that I suddenly said to myself; "City Boy, it was a LAKE!" Never ocurred to me to just dip my bottle in the water. Doh!
Here is a view of the lake from a distance, on the way back:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00131.jpg)
Lots of cacti, but the flat I got on the way out of town was from glass that had gradually worked its way through my rear tire. I had just cleaned and inspected the night before, so it was picked up on the ride. I did have to conserve my water a bit, until I got to a little store near the mining ghost town of Goldfield:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00161.jpg)
Conserving water in these conditions, at all, can quickly get you behind the hydration curve. I was starting to feel it, but the elctrolytes tablets I was inhaling, and constant small sips, helped keep me in the safe zone until I reached the store, which I knew was there.
All in all it was a great ride, long and hard, and an introduction to the Arizona summer season. By the end, my computer was showing a temp of 105, and I felt like a roast in the oven for Mothers Day dinner. The computer gave an "in the sun, on blacktop" temp about 10 degrees higher than the offical temp of "only 95" when I finished well before Noon. Summer is here. Leaving for Tortilla that late, after the group ride, was not the brightest plan. It's the sort of thing you want to do first, before it starts to heat up. But I was drawn by the allure of the group ride, like a snake to blacktop. And of course I tried to hang with the A riders, finally backing off on the main climb when my HR was staying in high Zone 5, getting to the regroup about 10 seconds after the leaders. It was my first ride with that group, so I had to HTFU as much as I could and still do the rest of my ride. Hopefully the miles I missed won't hurt me when I do the San Diego Century in a couple of weeks, which has (gulp) almost 9K of climbing.
This ride is an example of Arizona summer riding, where hydration and water supply weigh heavily into every decision you make. 6:00am start times now, until things cool off in the fall.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/400613
The ride started at 6:00, and I had to leave the house about 5:00. I did the 31 mile group ride, with 1.5K of climbing, then split from them and headed even further East, up North Apache Trail, towards "Tortilla Flat", a popular distination for those who want to climb. I had not been there before, newbie that I am. If you keep going past Tortilla Flat, you reach "End of Pavement", or "EOP" as it is known. I ended up turning around here, at Canyon Lake:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00071.jpg)
I was only carrying 2 bottles, and one was empty. It's dangerous in Arizona to have to conserve your water supply, so after riding through the picnic areas and not finding a water spigot or fountain, I turned around. It was only when I was well on my way back that I suddenly said to myself; "City Boy, it was a LAKE!" Never ocurred to me to just dip my bottle in the water. Doh!
Here is a view of the lake from a distance, on the way back:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00131.jpg)
Lots of cacti, but the flat I got on the way out of town was from glass that had gradually worked its way through my rear tire. I had just cleaned and inspected the night before, so it was picked up on the ride. I did have to conserve my water a bit, until I got to a little store near the mining ghost town of Goldfield:
![](https://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff337/megapetjarpy/Cycling/IMG_00161.jpg)
Conserving water in these conditions, at all, can quickly get you behind the hydration curve. I was starting to feel it, but the elctrolytes tablets I was inhaling, and constant small sips, helped keep me in the safe zone until I reached the store, which I knew was there.
All in all it was a great ride, long and hard, and an introduction to the Arizona summer season. By the end, my computer was showing a temp of 105, and I felt like a roast in the oven for Mothers Day dinner. The computer gave an "in the sun, on blacktop" temp about 10 degrees higher than the offical temp of "only 95" when I finished well before Noon. Summer is here. Leaving for Tortilla that late, after the group ride, was not the brightest plan. It's the sort of thing you want to do first, before it starts to heat up. But I was drawn by the allure of the group ride, like a snake to blacktop. And of course I tried to hang with the A riders, finally backing off on the main climb when my HR was staying in high Zone 5, getting to the regroup about 10 seconds after the leaders. It was my first ride with that group, so I had to HTFU as much as I could and still do the rest of my ride. Hopefully the miles I missed won't hurt me when I do the San Diego Century in a couple of weeks, which has (gulp) almost 9K of climbing.
This ride is an example of Arizona summer riding, where hydration and water supply weigh heavily into every decision you make. 6:00am start times now, until things cool off in the fall.
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WHOA! This is a sample of Arizona SPRING riding!
Have lived/cycled in AZ sinc 1978. Warmest I've commuted in: 117 degrees with 2% hunmidity.
We have room for up to 7 bottles on our tandem.
Start packing more water; hint: freeze 2 bottles overnite and you'll have cool water for a longer time.
Using lake water is not recommended (diarhea) unless you have a water bottle with a filtration set-up.
Photo of us on a 95 degree day in Tucson at end of April.
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Yep, it's going to get a lot warmer. I commute also, and haven't let temps stop me yet. For whatever reason, today it definitely felt like summer was here. People at work are already asking me if I'm going to stop riding in.
I did freeze both my Sustained Energy and a water bottle.. didn't stay that way long. I tried mounting a couple of bottles behind my seat, but haven't found a system that works. Should have brought my Camelbak for the leg out to Tortilla.
I did freeze both my Sustained Energy and a water bottle.. didn't stay that way long. I tried mounting a couple of bottles behind my seat, but haven't found a system that works. Should have brought my Camelbak for the leg out to Tortilla.
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All our lakes and streams in Colorado contain Giardia a protozoa - something that will make you forget quite quickly that you wantes to ride. You are lucky you did not stick yourbotlle inthe lake, unless you carry iodine tablets or something similar.
No one drinks directly from our streams and lakes here. I would guess the same for AZ.
Very nice ride and pics.
No one drinks directly from our streams and lakes here. I would guess the same for AZ.
Very nice ride and pics.
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I would have stopped at that canteen in Tortilla Falts. You know, the one where you staple a $1 bill on the wall and sit on horse saddles at the bar. If I remember correctly they also sale beverages that are not beer.
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. . . and you can put one of those insulated foam beercan covers over the frozen water bottle.
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I was pressed for time getting prepped for this ride the night before, and then getting out the door. My feeble brain had neglected to recall I needed to take care of the neighbor's dog when I set my alarm. I was saying to myself as I rushed out "need to check the web to see if Tortilla Flat has water, never having been there. Then I got out past cell service and hadn't checked. I could have just kept going, even if I had to fill a bottle with beer.
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All our lakes and streams in Colorado contain Giardia a protozoa - something that will make you forget quite quickly that you wantes to ride. You are lucky you did not stick yourbotlle inthe lake, unless you carry iodine tablets or something similar.
No one drinks directly from our streams and lakes here. I would guess the same for AZ.
Very nice ride and pics.
No one drinks directly from our streams and lakes here. I would guess the same for AZ.
Very nice ride and pics.
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For regular ride routes I've found it easy to get permission to use businesses and private homes as watering spots.
*I like the convenience of Nuun tabs but dislike the price. Does anyone use a good cheap alternative?
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I use Hammer's powder and tablets. They work for me, but I wouldn't consider them cheap. I suspect there are house brands at places like GNC that are less expensive. Tablets can be hard to handle in a race situation, but I finally started just putting them loose in a jersey pocket, and that works well. I thought they might melt, but it hasn't happened. The drinks I prepare in advance have the powder added, but I don't carry extra powder for refills, so I carry tablets as well.
The biggest issue I'm trying to solve for long hot rides now is a drink with some protein. Sustained Energy works well for me, but gets absolutely rancid after a couple of hours in the heat, even when frozen in advance. So I have to finish that in the first couple of hours. Then what, if I don't want to stop? Is Perpetuem any better after it has warmed up for awhile? I want to be able to go 4-5 hours without a stop for events like Tour de Tucson, which prohibits feed zone handups. Two bottles and a Camelbak will keep me hydrated for that (non-summer), but I need some liquid nutrition that will last to the end. Gel is fine for carbs, but for that long a ride, I need protein as well.
The biggest issue I'm trying to solve for long hot rides now is a drink with some protein. Sustained Energy works well for me, but gets absolutely rancid after a couple of hours in the heat, even when frozen in advance. So I have to finish that in the first couple of hours. Then what, if I don't want to stop? Is Perpetuem any better after it has warmed up for awhile? I want to be able to go 4-5 hours without a stop for events like Tour de Tucson, which prohibits feed zone handups. Two bottles and a Camelbak will keep me hydrated for that (non-summer), but I need some liquid nutrition that will last to the end. Gel is fine for carbs, but for that long a ride, I need protein as well.
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Because I sweat under any sort of conditions, hot or cold, I started using Endurolytes. Not cheap but they work like a charm for me. When I asked the guy at the LBS about them he said "yeah sure, just drop into water, I just pop them in my mouth sometimes" ... after watching them fizz away in my water bottles, it make me wonder if I'd start foaming at the mouth.
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Might be a good idea to pick up some water purification tablets at an outdoor store and carry a couple with you on your rides. That way you can drink from a lake or stream safely, should you need water.
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Pardon me for asking but what kind of "coach" would "assign" an 80-90 mile ride at this time of year? And why was he/she not out there ensuring that his/her students didn't burst in the heat? Just not seeing the point.
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I live in the desert. The heat is just another factor in the equation, and one I need to be able to manage well. Usually I do, I just didn't plan this out enough. "I'll just refill my bottles, and bop on up to Tortilla Flat after the group ride" didn't quite cut it. ;-) As A'Jet pointed out, turns out there was plenty of water just up (and I do mean UP) the road a few miles. I'm still pretty new to Arizona (9 years), and in my first season of race training.
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I am thinking back to when I was a young man attending Arizona State University. I lived in Mesa and did not own a car. From my house to the University was right around 10 miles. I never thought twice about just jumping onto the bike and going. Anytime of day, and day of the year. No helmet (who bothered back then?), no water bottle, no fancy clothes, no fancy shoes, no hydration plan, no Nuun, no shot blocks, etc. Just whatever I had on was fine and I would get a drink of water when I got there. Of course this is nowhere near the OP's 80 mile ride, but it just makes me think about the simple days gone by...
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The biggest issue I'm trying to solve for long hot rides now is a drink with some protein. Sustained Energy works well for me, but gets absolutely rancid after a couple of hours in the heat, even when frozen in advance. So I have to finish that in the first couple of hours. Then what, if I don't want to stop? Is Perpetuem any better after it has warmed up for awhile? I want to be able to go 4-5 hours without a stop for events like Tour de Tucson, which prohibits feed zone handups. Two bottles and a Camelbak will keep me hydrated for that (non-summer), but I need some liquid nutrition that will last to the end. Gel is fine for carbs, but for that long a ride, I need protein as well.
I also have a seat-post mounted cage and carry three or four bottles if I need to ride without water stops.
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But you're saying that you (as a over-50 non-athlete that's not part of a team) are paying someone to tell you when and how much to ride? Why?
I never venture out past known supplies of water and shade. And from about now till perhaps October, I limit my rides to about 40 miles. Heatstroke is no fun.
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I bought insulated bottles years ago but took the insulation out. It is better to have the space for water, even if it gets warm. I remember riding some of what you describe on my stingray back in the 60's. Climbing to Dobbins Lookout on a Paperboy special was a real treat. That was in July just because we were bored and mom wouldn't let us back in the house. Great area to ride!
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But you're saying that you (as a over-50 non-athlete that's not part of a team)...
... are paying someone to tell you when and how much to ride? Why?
I never venture out past known supplies of water and shade. And from about now till perhaps October, I limit my rides to about 40 miles. Heatstroke is no fun.
Are you trolling, or do you really just not get it that some of us train to compete?
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I bought one of those before a long event ride where I didn't want to stop. I can't get it to match up to my seat rails properly, so I went with my Camelback that ride.
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A motorcyclist bud of mine refers to riding in July in AZ with sticking your head inside a hot oven.
When I ride out there anything over 40 miles and it is Camelback time for me + the normal 2 bottles. Have used it all many times and don't care if I look like a dork on a road bike with a small backpack.
When I ride out there anything over 40 miles and it is Camelback time for me + the normal 2 bottles. Have used it all many times and don't care if I look like a dork on a road bike with a small backpack.
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Which is why I both answered your questions as legitimate, and challenged whether or not you were serious. I did the latter because the follow up questions seemed repetitious/challenging. My apologies if there was no challenge intended.
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I have always wanted to ride from east Mesa to Tortilla Flats, but never had the opportunity. Whenever I drove there I thought the road was pretty busy. How was the traffic that day?
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