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Old 05-06-24, 04:35 AM
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Campagnolo self-extracting bolt removal tool...

Greetings, I'm looking for one of these, if anyone has one they 'd be willing to part with. Happy to pay.

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I thought that's what the SPA-1 is for.

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Wrong tool, wrong BB part. It's specific to the self-extracting bolt on C Record (1985-1994) cranks - not the BB cups.
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Originally Posted by Jared Purdy
Wrong tool, wrong BB part. It's specific to the self-extracting bolt on C Record (1985-1994) cranks - not the BB cups.
I think point was that you can use a pin spanner (with appropriate size pins) to remove the self-extracting bolt and cover. I’m familiar with the special tool but I don’t think it is completely necessary.

FWIW: IIRC, the C-Record (and Chorus?) had left-threaded removal threads. I think.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
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FWIW: IIRC, the C-Record (and Chorus?) had left-threaded removal threads. I think.
Yes, Campy self extractor cranks had LH threads.

The tool the OP wants is a small cylinder with two pins. Never sold a ton of these, and the OP might try the C&V forum.

If he simply wants to do the job, I used to use a pair of circlip pliers.
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I see Jared had already posted the question on Velobase:

https://velobase.com/ViewTool.aspx?I...67f&AbsPos=142

I’d suggest Googling Campagnolo part number 1130015 and seeing what shows up. Tracking down rare tools for 40-year-old bike parts is never easy.
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Show me an available alternative. I'm yet to see one.
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I found someone on a FB group. He's got a few. Arranging payment and shipment - I just want one.
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Originally Posted by Jared Purdy
I found someone on a FB group. He's got a few. Arranging payment and shipment - I just want one.
Bringing balance to the world by redistributing rare Campagnolo tools.
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Originally Posted by Jared Purdy
Show me an available alternative. I'm yet to see one.
This one is specifically for extractor rings and dust caps.
https://www.parktool.com/en-us/produ...Bottom+Bracket

You're aware it is reverse threaded, right?
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Originally Posted by Jared Purdy
Show me an available alternative. I'm yet to see one.
It just needs a peg spanner with the right size pegs, I expect some circlip pliers would work too. It would be an easy tool to make ... If it's stuck then heat should help, or soak it in penetrating oil for a few days. Unscrew clockwise (because if it unscrewed anticlockwise it would come out when you loosen the crank bolt).
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I found someone on a FB group. He's got a few. Arranging payment and shipment - I just want one.
do check the sellers history.if they just joined its likely a scammer.
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IIRC the left vs right threading varies by year.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
IIRC the left vs right threading varies by year.
Which years are they not left?
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Originally Posted by SJX426
IIRC the left vs right threading varies by year.
Only indirectly.

One key release cranks are all LH. Cranks that are not one key are RH. So crank arm thread direction varies by year in the sense that it depends on the model year.
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@fbinHY and @Kontact - My IIRC may be IDRC! I thought I read a C&V thread a while ago that stated initially LH and later RH. I haven't experienced one so it may be that a RH version wouldn't work.
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@fbinHY and @Kontact - My IIRC may be IDRC! I thought I read a C&V thread a while ago that stated initially LH and later RH. I haven't experienced one so it may be that a RH version wouldn't work.
As I said, ALL one key cranks were LH. You may have been confused because they stopped using one key, so cranks sold later were RH again.
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Originally Posted by SJX426
@fbinHY and @Kontact - My IIRC may be IDRC! I thought I read a C&V thread a while ago that stated initially LH and later RH. I haven't experienced one so it may be that a RH version wouldn't work.
Self extracting bolts like this were made before Campy by Shimano and after by everyone - all in RH thread. Campy chose to make things weird with left hand thread and 7mm wrench size. But LH should be more reliable for doing BB service in the field.
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All Campy self-extracting bolts that I've seen have been LH thread. Think about it: if the extractors were RH, then they would tend to unscrew themselves during arm removal.

These bolts do not need to be removed - ever. Unless some doofus used a 6mm (or SAE) hex key attempting to remove the arms, instead of a the required 7mm key. And now the extractors are uselessly mangled/stripped. Or is making a cheesy attempt to sell the crankarms and extractor bolts separately on Fleabay for extra $. This will backfire when the buyer of the crankarms cannot figure out why the threads are LH (manufacturing flaw?), and nukes the seller with negative feedback.
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All Campy self-extracting bolts that I've seen have been LH thread. Think about it: if the extractors were RH, then they would tend to unscrew themselves during arm removal.
Didn't read the thread or see all the cranks with self extracting bolts and RH threads over the last 40 years?
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
All Campy self-extracting bolts that I've seen have been LH thread.
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Didn't read the thread or see all the cranks with self extracting bolts and RH threads over the last 40 years?
I suspect that Campagnolo was suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
I suspect that Campagnolo was suffering from "Not Invented Here" syndrome.
Not that Campy has never displayed NIH syndrome, but from a pure design standpoint using a LH thread makes sense.

It absolutely prevents the turning crank bolt taking the extractor ring with it. However, Shimano had success without reversing threads.

I'm reminded of threaded BBs, where the detail oriented Brits always used LH threads on the right cup, yet the rest of the world did just fine without doing so.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Didn't read the thread or see all the cranks with self extracting bolts and RH threads over the last 40 years?
Damn: somehow your posting got past my kill filter; have to fix. Once again, and consistently, you've posted a useless nonsensical piece of nothing.

THE OP ASKED ABOUT CAMPAGNOLOLO SELF EXTRACTORS. Nothing else. Campagnolo. These are all LH threaded. Don't waste any more bandwidth or anyone else's time responding to this.
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Damn: somehow your posting got past my kill filter; have to fix. Once again, and consistently, you've posted a useless nonsensical piece of nothing.

THE OP ASKED ABOUT CAMPAGNOLOLO SELF EXTRACTORS. Nothing else. Campagnolo. These are all LH threaded. Don't waste any more bandwidth or anyone else's time responding to this.
The Campy ones don't work any different than all the other RH ones, so the fact that they are Campy is "nonsensical". The physics of extracting a crank doesn't change because it came from Italy.

This forum is just choked with the half-baked musings of people that can't be bothered to think through their own ideas. And then everyone else ends up having to deal with nonsense stated as fact about how bikes work, some of which will get repeated until somebody actually believes it.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Not that Campy has never displayed NIH syndrome, but from a pure design standpoint using a LH thread makes sense.

It absolutely prevents the turning crank bolt taking the extractor ring with it. However, Shimano had success without reversing threads.

I'm reminded of threaded BBs, where the detail oriented Brits always used LH threads on the right cup, yet the rest of the world did just fine without doing so.
Indeed. If/when the retaining ring on the self-extractor breaks (it happens), no special tool is needed to remove Shimano crank arms.

I'm reminded of threaded BBs, where the detail oriented Brits always used LH threads on the right cup, yet the rest of the world did just fine without doing so.

Except for the Swiss, anyway. And RH thread fixed cups can come loose in use.
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