Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Power Meters for Geezers

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Power Meters for Geezers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-21, 09:45 AM
  #51  
cyclezen
OM boy
 
cyclezen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Goleta CA
Posts: 4,368

Bikes: a bunch

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 517 Post(s)
Liked 644 Times in 438 Posts
in Direct response to OP's initial Q - I would offer a Heart Monitor (HM or HRM) as an option (or to be certain the HM component is also part of the 'power' system).
why?
it is also a direct link to your body performance. A PM really needs an HM to fully qualify the info you're getting. A PM will tell you your output at the bike interface, but without a HM component it's not telling you at 'what expense' ... Combined the 2 will give you an understanding of your 'efficiency' at whatever level you're riding.
now the side comment...
I have WAY Tooo many bikes to consider having a PM on even a small selection. I do try to ride them all, but have 4 which are the most 'often' ridden. I can't imagine setting up 4 bike PM systems... crazy !
If I had only 1 or maybe even 2 bikes - possibly...
I started training using a bike based HM in 1986 - make a big difference in my training for racing... But I was already a few years into "veterans" cat (but still racing 1-2-3) and with much less time available. The HM really helped in maximizing my bike time.
I always wear it (the recent one), on every ride, every bike, and sometimes on hikes/backpacks or ski adventures.
You can really get to know yourself, once you have some period of 'data' about yourself.
The modern HM/HRM can give quite extensive data, like KCAL, if 'tuneable'. From that you can calculate some general 'power' numbers which give an approximation.
Enough for me.
I tried the wrist -based system - FitBit - and found them wildly inaccurate, hard to read, and just not usable. I had hoped they would be a good replacement for the chest strap systems, especially when it came to XC skiing or hiking/backpacking. ... NOT....
One thing the HM does give me quickly, is my general 'state' at the beginning of any ride, as relates to my 'state' on that day. A fast spiking of HR or low 'ceiling' rate at perceived higher effort tells me my body/system is just not close to an optimal level... Helps me decide when I need to think 'recovery' as opposed to 'hammer' kinda day.
Still do the ride - but with a more reliable focus. Given I stopped racing in '13, I can now choose how any day will shape up, and not driven to 'max' each ride - A bad habit I've always had... LOL!
I Still have 'goals' and 'objectives' and hoping to again ride near the 'front' - but thankfully they're tempered... and my riding buddies like me better this way also... LOL!
Ride On
Yuri

Last edited by cyclezen; 10-25-21 at 09:49 AM.
cyclezen is offline  
Likes For cyclezen:
Old 10-25-21, 06:19 PM
  #52  
Carbonfiberboy 
just another gosling
 
Carbonfiberboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 19,534

Bikes: CoMo Speedster 2003, Trek 5200, CAAD 9, Fred 2004

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3889 Post(s)
Liked 1,938 Times in 1,383 Posts
Originally Posted by PeteHski
This is what I've noticed too. Two friends I ride with don't have a PM and they always set off way too hot on the first climb of a long event. I can see straight away on my PM when they are heading for a spectacular fail. RPE feels much lower with fresh legs and plenty of adrenaline. But power doesn't lie! They're getting smarter now though and have learned to use me to pace climbs better. They have even started asking what power we're actually riding at. I should start charging them, lol.
OTOH, on really long rides, even though I have a PM, I pace by HR. I find the guys who pace by power don't realize how tired they are getting until it all goes Plunk. HR keeps me better informed of my physical situation, which causes me to adjust my power to my current ability. I still use power to stay smooth, but vary the power according to my needs. My usual tactic is to set a HR limit for a long ride and not go over it - not a power limit.
__________________
Results matter
Carbonfiberboy is offline  
Likes For Carbonfiberboy:
Old 10-26-21, 06:21 AM
  #53  
PeteHski
Senior Member
 
PeteHski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 8,431
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4407 Post(s)
Liked 4,859 Times in 3,006 Posts
Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
OTOH, on really long rides, even though I have a PM, I pace by HR. I find the guys who pace by power don't realize how tired they are getting until it all goes Plunk. HR keeps me better informed of my physical situation, which causes me to adjust my power to my current ability. I still use power to stay smooth, but vary the power according to my needs. My usual tactic is to set a HR limit for a long ride and not go over it - not a power limit.
I do that too. They are both useful and best used together. I do quite a few long, hard events and still see a lot of people blowing up in the last hour, especially if there are hard climbs near the finish. Using both power and HR pretty much avoids that scenario for me.
PeteHski is offline  
Likes For PeteHski:
Old 10-26-21, 01:16 PM
  #54  
Flip Flop Rider
Senior Member
 
Flip Flop Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: South Carolina Upstate
Posts: 2,109

Bikes: 2010 Fuji Absolute 3.0 1994 Trek 850

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 762 Post(s)
Liked 555 Times in 322 Posts
if you have the money and that's not an issue, why not treat yourself
Flip Flop Rider is offline  
Likes For Flip Flop Rider:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.