Time tested and safest method of weight reduction...
02-14-24, 09:57 AM
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Time tested and safest method of weight reduction...
Whilst removing the Weinmann-Carlton levers for sending to @USAZorro I decided to unwrap the bars to see how light they were. Welp...
This would be perfect for any build prioritizing weight savings over skin, teeth and good looks. In other words, AMCO- the Huffente bars have arrived.
Who would ride these with complete blind confidence?
Maybe our bicycle metallurgical geniuses and mechanics par excellence will want to weigh and fess up to the act!
This would be perfect for any build prioritizing weight savings over skin, teeth and good looks. In other words, AMCO- the Huffente bars have arrived.
Who would ride these with complete blind confidence?
Maybe our bicycle metallurgical geniuses and mechanics par excellence will want to weigh and fess up to the act!
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Who rides with their hands in the drops anyway? 
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Alf Engers, the English 'Time Trial King', did. His Shorter looked like Swiss cheese, until he found out that the aerodynamic loss was greater than the weight advantage. A story worth googling.
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In other words, perfectly safe.
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They are alloy. I just started polishing them up a bit.
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Years ago at a cyclocross race I was watching, after a short, hard descent the leader just rode straight and gently crashed.
When he removed his bars he revealed a drilled steered tube. Fewer holes than those bars, but several.
When he removed his bars he revealed a drilled steered tube. Fewer holes than those bars, but several.
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According to the Original owners son, his father likely drilled them in 1975 or so. He was a believer in stacked cotton wrap.
When a gap was noticed, he would wrap stick cloth tape on top. Sometimes in single sections. Then he got stylish on the top layer (presumably after the new paint), and put red white and blue.
There were 2.5 layers of tape under the last.
And the bars were likely good for 20,000 or so miles.
When a gap was noticed, he would wrap stick cloth tape on top. Sometimes in single sections. Then he got stylish on the top layer (presumably after the new paint), and put red white and blue.
There were 2.5 layers of tape under the last.
And the bars were likely good for 20,000 or so miles.
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Have you seen how people will use an old stem and bar to hang their bike on the wall?
That would be a perfect use for these bars!
In the meantime, it might be interesting to get out a magnifier and see if you can find any tiny cracks starting.
...and by "interesting", I mean "nightmare inducing".
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That would be a perfect use for these bars!
In the meantime, it might be interesting to get out a magnifier and see if you can find any tiny cracks starting.
...and by "interesting", I mean "nightmare inducing".
Steve in Peoria
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One could look to 1972.
the Hour Record.
the Hour Record.
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"Whiffle Bars!"
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Am I the only one imagining Ian Anderson riding that bike, running his fingers up and down the untaped bar?
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Apart from the OP this pic brings back to me loving memories.
Gears at Maximum, Hands on the Drops, Straps tight, Pulling and Pushing, Air through Nose and Mouth, Forehead grazing the Stem, Nose of the Saddle barely touching your inner thighs, Lungs pushing your heart out of your throat, Yep... What a WONDERFUL FEELING...
35 years past and yet I can still feel it just looking at this pic...
Gears at Maximum, Hands on the Drops, Straps tight, Pulling and Pushing, Air through Nose and Mouth, Forehead grazing the Stem, Nose of the Saddle barely touching your inner thighs, Lungs pushing your heart out of your throat, Yep... What a WONDERFUL FEELING...
35 years past and yet I can still feel it just looking at this pic...
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According to the Original owners son, his father likely drilled them in 1975 or so. He was a believer in stacked cotton wrap.
When a gap was noticed, he would wrap stick cloth tape on top. Sometimes in single sections. Then he got stylish on the top layer (presumably after the new paint), and put red white and blue.
There were 2.5 layers of tape under the last.
When a gap was noticed, he would wrap stick cloth tape on top. Sometimes in single sections. Then he got stylish on the top layer (presumably after the new paint), and put red white and blue.
There were 2.5 layers of tape under the last.
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I AM curious about how 20,000 miles was spent on them with nary a sign of cracking or failure.
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