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Old 08-23-22, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
A torn up to go menu also can work. Guess how I know.
...you can also do this with a c note, for the people who ride 5 grand bikes in full kit, and never carry anything smaller.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
You judge me for riding bents. I dont HAVE to ride a trike, I choose to because of all the benefits they offer.
It's not that you ride a 'bent. Mostly, it's your consistent attitude of believing you are superior because of your choice to ride a 'bent. Today, it's because of your class judgement and conclusions about an unfortunate rider you came across.
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OH----------and BTW this last week end I rode my trike in perfect comfort 65 miles. Not too bad for an 84 year old-------------right********************?
...it's been hotter than hell here for the past couple of months. I honestly cannot remember the last time I rode my bike in perfect comfort. Even if I get started at 8 am, by the time I get home I'm soaked. And that's just wearing bib shorts and a t-shirt.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...it's been hotter than hell here for the past couple of months. I honestly cannot remember the last time I rode my bike in perfect comfort. Even if I get started at 8 am, by the time I get home I'm soaked. And that's just wearing bib shorts and a t-shirt.
Ryda's post is based on his conclusion political position that anyone riding a standard-configuration 2-wheeled bicycle is horribly uncomfortable for every moment of their ride, and therefore, a 'bent is the superior choice. It has nothing to do with temperature.

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Originally Posted by Eric F
Ryda's post is based on his conclusion that anyone riding a standard-configuration 2-wheeled bicycle is horribly uncomfortable for every moment of their ride, and therefore, a 'bent is the superior choice. It has nothing to do with temperature.
...there's one guy I see sometimes on the MUP, riding a bent with a full fairing. I haven't seem him since the hot weather started though. Must be unbearable in there.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...you can also do this with a c note, for the people who ride 5 grand bikes in full kit, and never carry anything smaller.
My wife's road bike was about $13k; she carries Krugerrands.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...you can also do this with a c note, for the people who ride 5 grand bikes in full kit, and never carry anything smaller.
Most often, the only cash I carry when I ride is the $1 bill folded up in my tool kit that has served excellently as a tire boot twice. Hell, it's even rare for me to have cash in my full wallet.
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You totally missed the point that it is illogical to ride 10 miles away from home with no supplies or tools.
Yet you also told us this was not the case.

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The actual conversation went like this. Bike trouble?? Yes, flat tiire, I got a huge screw in my tire. I have a patches and a pump.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
My wife's road bike was about $13k; she carries Krugerrands.
I used to ride with those, but they make terrible tire boots. Now I just carry bearer bonds.
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If I ever get a cut in a tire, I am going to fix it with Apple cash.
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I used to ride with those, but they make terrible tire boots. Now I just carry bearer bonds.
Yeah, but tipping the kid at the bike valet with bearer bonds isn't met with great enthusiasm.
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So, for those having trouble following the alleged conversation:



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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
If I ever get a cut in a tire, I am going to fix it with Apple cash.
I booted a tire with an I.O.U when I was a teenager. I think that is why my credit rating isn't good enough to get the private jet I want.
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So, for those having trouble following the alleged conversation:



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Yup that was it exactly.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
It's not that you ride a 'bent. Mostly, it's your consistent attitude of believing you are superior because of your choice to ride a 'bent. Today, it's because of your class judgement and conclusions about an unfortunate rider you came across.
I dont claim to be superior, I claim bents and trikes offer superior benefits over an 1890 design such as comfort and view. I also suggest at least 50% of riders would benefit from what bents and trikes offer. I also know that this doesnt apply for mountain biking and those that race.

Are you willing to admit this is true?
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I dont claim to be superior, I claim bents and trikes offer superior benefits over an 1890 design such as comfort and view. I also suggest at least 50% of riders would benefit from what bents and trikes offer. I also know that this doesnt apply for mountain biking and those that race.

Are you willing to admit this is true?
Geared recumbents first appeared in the 1890s, soon after the safety bicycle, which had begun to persuade the more timid riders to return to two wheels. Charles Challand, a professor in Geneva, built what was probably the first geared recumbent. He called it the Normal Bicycle...

Around that same time, in 1896, Irving Wales of Rhode Island applied for a patent for a recumbent bicycle. Wales’s machine had wheels of equal size and, like the Normal Bicycle, had its cranks behind the steering head. In addition to the standard pedal drive, there was hand drive, which the rider used in the same way as a rowing machine, pulling back and releasing sliding handgrips linked to the cranks by cables. (Arm power is a recurring theme in recumbent design but has never proved popular.)

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/a...mbent-bicycle/

Recumbent designs have been around just about as long as the safety bicycle design you seem to abjure.
I would think that given that length of time, if half the riders in the world would "benefit" from riding one, they would by now have caught on.

Maybe I'm missing something ? Is this another conspiracy by big bicycle to sell more chamois cream ?
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Recumbents generally offer inferior viewing, especially when there is something like high brush around, but you do get better views of tailpipes and bumper stickers.

One only thinks they don’t if they (claim to) believe the fallacy that all DF riders stare at the riding surface. But whatever.

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Because the guy was wearing full kit and riding a $5,000 bike!
Does "full kit" require bibs and jersey from the same manufacturer? Or am I still guilty in LG bibs with a Giro jersey?

What if my bike only cost $2000, but when it was originally built 27 years ago it sold for $4000?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
I dont claim to be superior, I claim bents and trikes offer superior benefits over an 1890 design such as comfort and view. I also suggest at least 50% of riders would benefit from what bents and trikes offer. I also know that this doesnt apply for mountain biking and those that race.

Are you willing to admit this is true?
Your self-awareness is lacking.

We agree that 'bents are useless for racing (except against other 'bents) and MTB.
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Are you willing to admit this is true?.
I'm certainly willing to admit that you have stated your opinion, to which you are totally entitled. Are there downsides to 'bents?

It really isn't worth arguing about opinions. Sharing is interesting and useful; arguing, not.

LG bibs with a Giro jersey
I think the fact the both brands feature the letter 'g' prominently absolved you of any clothing faux pas.

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Are there downsides to 'bents?
Ask yourself why so many ride with really tall flags attached to their rears.
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I'm certainly willing to admit that you have stated your opinion, to which you are totally entitled. Are there downsides to 'bents?
...

...perhaps the greatest problem that has hindered the recumbent movement for generations is the lack of a mass-produced front-wheel multi-speed gear hub with integral cranks and pedals. In most recumbent configurations, the ergonomically appropriate place to pedal would be the front wheel, as on the Parisian velocipedes of the 1860s. But without such a hub the pedals always had to be placed in front of that wheel, above it or behind it, disabling compactness, an upright position, or easy starting. A new company in France, Kervelo, now produces hub gears with integral cranks and up to 12 speeds, but still at high, short-series cost that would easily double a recumbent’s price.
https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/a...mbent-bicycle/

...it's actually an interesting article on the history of this technology.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Recumbents generally offer inferior viewing, especially when there is something like high brush around, but you do get better views of tailpipes and bumper stickers.

One only thinks they don’t if they (claim to) believe the fallacy that all DF riders stare at the riding surface. But whatever.
The idea of riding something on the streets that puts my head at or below the level of a car/truck/SUV window sill scares the crap out of me. I'm way more concerned with being seen than I am about about what I can see.
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