Bought fake bike
#26
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,614
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10964 Post(s)
Liked 7,491 Times
in
4,189 Posts
Likes For mstateglfr:
#28
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 33,656
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2026 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,096 Times
in
742 Posts
Frankly, if someone was going to counterfeit a bike I expect they would have used a more famous name than Wilier. I guess they are decent bikes but certainly not worth faking.
Likes For HillRider:
#30
SE Wis
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,515
Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2747 Post(s)
Liked 3,396 Times
in
2,056 Posts
#31
Expired Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 11,543
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3674 Post(s)
Liked 5,433 Times
in
2,759 Posts
Likes For shelbyfv:
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,971
Bikes: Habanero Titanium Team Nuevo
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 399 Post(s)
Liked 185 Times
in
121 Posts
What year is the bike supposed to be. I have a 2013 Wilier GT and it has cables that are in the frame not on the the outside like this one.
#33
Senior Member
Just my 2 cents worth: have you checked under the cable guide on the bottom of the bottom bracket to see if a serial number is hiding under it?
#34
Member
Thread Starter
.
The main issue is the integrity of the frame. It could be just a cheaper import, and still be a good frame, or it could be junk and end up cracking.
With a fake, there is no way to know. I think with a sale price of $550, maybe $500 without gas, how much lower can someone build that bike and still get a bike that you would feel safe riding? How fast are you willing to go on that bike?
John
With a fake, there is no way to know. I think with a sale price of $550, maybe $500 without gas, how much lower can someone build that bike and still get a bike that you would feel safe riding? How fast are you willing to go on that bike?
John
UPDATE: the buyer answered and we're supposed to be meeting up for full refund. He acknowledges he's not 100% sure but hes BS he knows too much about bikes not to. He tried telling me the fork is carbon fiber. I told him its not carbon fiber why would anyone paint OVER carbon fiber???
I don't post much because honestly there's no need to unless I need specifics. Thanks bike forum community I appreciate the responses Namaste
#35
Member
Thread Starter
#36
Member
Thread Starter
#37
Member
Thread Starter
#38
Not a newbie to cycling
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 911
Bikes: Omnium Cargo Ti with Rohloff, Bullitt Milk Plus, Dahon Smooth Hound
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 356 Post(s)
Liked 323 Times
in
199 Posts
Anyway, good for the seller that he is giving you your money back. I still wonder what it is that is creaking and why you think it is the frame itself.
#39
Member
Thread Starter
Because it's another surface? Not everyone likes raw carbon fibre. You can test if it's metal or carbon fibre by merely knocking on it. You should be able to tell the difference that easily.
Anyway, good for the seller that he is giving you your money back. I still wonder what it is that is creaking and why you think it is the frame itself.
Anyway, good for the seller that he is giving you your money back. I still wonder what it is that is creaking and why you think it is the frame itself.
Likes For CargoDane:
#41
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SGV SoCal
Posts: 250
Bikes: 2013 Wilier Gran Turismo, 1983 Trek 760, 80's Colnago Super, 90's De Rosa SLX, 2009 Waterford 22 Series Singlespeed, 85 Medici Pro Strada, De Rosa Alumino frameset, Dave Molten Fuso frameset, 70's beater Peugeot PX10, Zizzo Liberte, 2022 Yoeleo R12
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 122 Post(s)
Liked 199 Times
in
92 Posts
OP, I'm glad the seller is willing to take the bike back. It wouldn't be a total loss if you kept the bike and it was rideable, but the creaking sound you're hearing isn't a good sign.
#42
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,614
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10964 Post(s)
Liked 7,491 Times
in
4,189 Posts
Likes For mstateglfr:
#43
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Queens, NY for now...
Posts: 1,515
Bikes: 82 Lotus Unique, 86 Lotus Legend, 88 Basso Loto, 88 Basso PR, 89 Basso PR, 96 Bianchi CDI, 2013 Deda Aegis, 2019 Basso Diamante SV
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 943 Post(s)
Liked 172 Times
in
113 Posts
Pegoretti meets Pollock...
Actually, I think Wilier is a pretty famous name in the bike world, and extremely well respected. If you have money to spend, you really can't get much better than a Wilier.
I don't know, bro, like why not ask, like, 'literally' every carbon bike manufacturer on the planet?
I don't know, bro, like why not ask, like, 'literally' every carbon bike manufacturer on the planet?
Likes For robertorolfo:
#44
Senior Member
It's clearly an aluminum frame bike, with a weird angular top and down tube. I have no idea Wilier if made ever a frame like that. It a really distinctive frame design, it seems highly unlikely that someone would counterfeit it. Most likely it's some other brands frame that's been painted or a genuine Wilier.
Also, most carbon forks are painted. The ones that aren't need to have a little of extra care taken with the outer layer, otherwise it can look pretty ugly with where the seams are.
Also, most carbon forks are painted. The ones that aren't need to have a little of extra care taken with the outer layer, otherwise it can look pretty ugly with where the seams are.
Likes For gsa103:
#46
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 4,870
Bikes: A few too many
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 2,181 Times
in
1,183 Posts
^^^^Forge on!
Best, Ben
Best, Ben
#47
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SGV SoCal
Posts: 250
Bikes: 2013 Wilier Gran Turismo, 1983 Trek 760, 80's Colnago Super, 90's De Rosa SLX, 2009 Waterford 22 Series Singlespeed, 85 Medici Pro Strada, De Rosa Alumino frameset, Dave Molten Fuso frameset, 70's beater Peugeot PX10, Zizzo Liberte, 2022 Yoeleo R12
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 122 Post(s)
Liked 199 Times
in
92 Posts
Marco Pantani's Famous Aluminum Wilier
#48
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SGV SoCal
Posts: 250
Bikes: 2013 Wilier Gran Turismo, 1983 Trek 760, 80's Colnago Super, 90's De Rosa SLX, 2009 Waterford 22 Series Singlespeed, 85 Medici Pro Strada, De Rosa Alumino frameset, Dave Molten Fuso frameset, 70's beater Peugeot PX10, Zizzo Liberte, 2022 Yoeleo R12
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 122 Post(s)
Liked 199 Times
in
92 Posts
Check out the Wilier at the 14:13 mark of this video!
#49
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Downey, CA.
Posts: 1,166
Bikes: Litespeed Classic (55cm), Specialized Tarmac Pro (56cm)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
4 Posts
So, did we determine this was a fake? Maybe doesn't matter any more since OP stated he's going to get a full refund.
__________________
Litespeed, lasts a lifetime.
Specialized Tarmac, lasts a lifetime, or until it breaks.
Litespeed, lasts a lifetime.
Specialized Tarmac, lasts a lifetime, or until it breaks.
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,606
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 581 Post(s)
Liked 921 Times
in
518 Posts
I am not familiar with the Wilier lineup, but I don't see anything wrong with that bike at all. It makes no sense to fake a lesser-known brand then sell it for a reasonable price. OP not being able to find the serial # is not a surprise seeing as they didn't know carbon fibre is almost always painted.
Likes For ClydeClydeson: