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Old 03-11-24, 09:00 PM
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1950 something, crusty Paramount

EDIT, so @trainman999 has dated this one to late 48 - early 49, he has a very good handle on this so we'll run with it.

Crusty, rusty to start but over all pretty sound so I dug in.

I couldn't get the before pics to load.

Big plus that all bearings were still usable. Frame, fork, BB, crank, pedals and HS all original.

Modern wheelset as placeholders for now, hopefully more sympathetic ones can be sourced, originals will not be used.

Originally sold by Jackie Simes Schwinn shop, pretty cool to me.

Somewhat ancient rock hard equally crusty Brooks that was being saved for something like this.











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Wow. Pretty damn cool.
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Very cool. You are bringing it to Eroica CA, of course - it is set up perfectly to go up, over and down Cypress.

Does it have a serial number, and, if so, can you date the frame using the Paramount numbering info on the Waterford website?
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As the kids say…cool AF!!
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I’m from 1955 and wish I was in the shape this bike is in. It’s a beauty.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Very cool. You are bringing it to Eroica CA, of course - it is set up perfectly to go up, over and down Cypress.

Does it have a serial number, and, if so, can you date the frame using the Paramount numbering info on the Waterford website?
It is 289, normal, later process doesn't apply. Hard to say as the numbers early on were often out of sequence and sometimes had a letter added when none were thought to be used.

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/ea....142943/page-3

It is Waystn built and a bit crude in many ways but pretty cool none the less.

I can barely ride it around the block.
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Originally Posted by 356geoff
I’m from 1955 and wish I was in the shape this bike is in. It’s a beauty.
Tx, Its pretty rough but still sound and cleaned up ok where it mattered.
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That’s quite the dog-leg bend to that fork.
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The rear "Schwinn Built" caliper with straight-arm spring is late 1940s - early 1950s era. Not sure if that came with the bike, but that might give some help.
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My size and my color! If it turns out to be a 52, my year too.
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That looks great Van! You cleaned up those incredibly rusty pedals nicely.
What would period correct wheels be for an early Paramount?
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That looks great Van! You cleaned up those incredibly rusty pedals nicely.
What would period correct wheels be for an early Paramount?
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Tx Brent, not sure on the wheels, very much could have been wood depending on the when and there are alloy too depending on same.

Pedals and original chainring all cleaned up well considering, chainring may not come into play unless I get lucky and find a wheel with skip tooth.

Elbow grease, 2 weeks Evaporust, stout BBQ and welding brushes and the wire wheel all came into play here.

I was really glad they were still sound and bearing cups were still ok, new bearings, oldschool axle grease and good to go.

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Originally Posted by SirMike1983
The rear "Schwinn Built" caliper with straight-arm spring is late 1940s - early 1950s era. Not sure if that came with the bike, but that might give some help.
I had and put the rear brake on it, it may not have had any when it was new.

My 58 came with and has them.





289 s/n could be early but really don't know so......
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I really like the stem, what is it?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
That’s quite the dog-leg bend to that fork.
Yeah, not sure if its right, seems to be and rides ok so....

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I really like the stem, what is it?
Tx

Crummy old plain chrome steel, closest thing I had on hand that worked for this and went very well with the Major Taylor bars that I had just picked up.
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I love me some Paramounts. This works.

You got balls to combine age components. That's a good thing.
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I love me some Paramounts. This works.

You got balls to combine age components. That's a good thing.
Tx, yep, no shame here and when I do this, more correct parts are always on my radar.

This one had it all come together except wheels that can be a huge, spendy deal on these so I made an executive decision and put the modern wheels on for now, they came from a 74? track Pmount I did awhile back that they are also too new for but couldn't be helped.

I have some others in the works so we'll see.


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Originally Posted by merziac
1950? something.

Crusty, rusty to start but over all pretty sound so I dug in.
With only one brake, I would feel a lot safer with it on the front (as with the yellow track bike) than on the rear.
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Originally Posted by John E
With only one brake, I would feel a lot safer with it on the front (as with the yellow track bike) than on the rear.
The green one only had the the rear bridge drilled, the yellow, only the fork, I would have preferred none but am happy to have whatever.

Neither will see very many miles, and I'm so not a track guy so......
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^^^ Be still my beating heart!

Lemon YELLOW Paramount? Right up my alley.

You will see soon....

(I have a vintage pair of Campy Tubular rims if you were at all needing...)
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Originally Posted by SharpByCoop
^^^ Be still my beating heart!

Lemon YELLOW Paramount? Right up my alley.

You will see soon....

(I have a vintage pair of Campy Tubular rims if you were at all needing...)
Oh I know, standing by.

And Tx, but not even close to manly enough for tubies.
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It's a shame we don't have vintage bicycle shows here, so much beautiful steel in PDX
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