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Old 12-18-11, 01:16 PM
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Suicide hub safety - lockrings and stuff

Suicide hub with no lockring, brakeless. Is it safe for the road?
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im actually of a different opinion than all of the previous .GIFs.

I honestly believe it CAN be safe if you take a few precautions.

1. Use loc-tite. The strongest kind they sell (red i think it is?)
2. put a lockring on it! even though it wont be reverse threaded its still nice to have! again-- use loc-tite
3. dont push a racing gear. push something reasonable. maybe 70 GI.

Its smart to ride with a brake because no matter what it's risky to ride with a suicide hub, but ive never had an issue with mine on any of my conversions. For my track bike however-- I'd never consider it. When you hit 30+ mph for s*its and giggles, you could easily create enough friction to undo the cog.
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Originally Posted by kiwashere
im actually of a different opinion than all of the previous .GIFs.

I honestly believe it CAN be safe if you take a few precautions.

1. Use loc-tite. The strongest kind they sell (red i think it is?)
2. put a lockring on it! even though it wont be reverse threaded its still nice to have! again-- use loc-tite
3. dont push a racing gear. push something reasonable. maybe 70 GI.

Its smart to ride with a brake because no matter what it's risky to ride with a suicide hub, but ive never had an issue with mine on any of my conversions. For my track bike however-- I'd never consider it. When you hit 30+ mph for s*its and giggles, you could easily create enough friction to undo the cog.
Well,a suicide hub only becomes a suicide hub when you're running brakeless.I've done 'em with loctite before and never had one fail, but I always had brakes.The thing is that when going brakeless you'll want a lowish gear for easier resisting, but the torque of a low gear is more likely to break the loctite when stopping hard and things get ugly.
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FWIW - my rain bike has a suicide hub and is brakeless. I'm using a BB lockring and check it all the time - it's never loosened up. Gearing is 44/18.

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I did it a while back when I stripped my lockring threads. Rotafixed the hell out of the cog, even though I have two brakes, and it didn't loosen after my attempts to really put a lot of backwards force. so... I'm on the fence
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Yeah, it can be done, why though? Too cheap for a $2 lockring? Might work just fine tooling around, but will you trust your life to it when you get into an emergency situation and toque the hell out of it.
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