zymphad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB8jJH-mumY#t=269

Anyone else see this? It's so stupid. Power transfer engineering? Come on. Can you name a performance carbon bike that doesn't have oversized headtube, oversized downtube and oversized bottome bracket? I can't think of one.

Can you think of a bike that doesn't have raked fork for more comfort? I can't think of one. That's just common sense, if you want compliance, straight fork isn't the solution.

ISO whatever, guess that's a nice gimmick, but no different than any other company finding ways to absorb shock, bent seat stays, Y seat stay, and absorbers.

What a stupid marketing video. Seriously dumb. Do customers actually get sucked into this moron marketing?

It took Trek 3 years to develop an oversized down tube? Who works at Trek? Drunk monkeys?

gus6464

Good bike. Liked it better than the Roubaix.

MegaTom

Some astute observations there..

zymphad

My point exactly. Have you met anyone that actually falls for this crap?

Bacciagalupe

1) It's over a year old.

2) It's entirely standard. It's no worse than the marketing materials put out by any other manufacturer.

3) I agree Trek was way behind the curve, but who cares? The Madone has been out for about 2 years now.

Element GT

Would a campaign saying they're doing the same thing as everyone else be more effective?

brianmcg123

Thanks for posting a two year old video.

Other than that, what is making you so angry about a company shooting a video and talking about the bike?

Maybe I'm not seeing the same video you are.

MegaTom

I was talking about your post..

zymphad

Me too, your sarcasm wasn't missed.

Jakedatc

Katie Compton just won Cx nats on the cross version Andy schleck likes it better than the Madone

RoadTire 

FIFY.

Turn your TV on, turn the sound off. A week later you won't believe how stupid most of the news and products pedaled to us is. You are on a lonely trek my friend if you feel that banging your head on the bars will actually stem the production of a typical media wrap.

Just sayin'.

RoadTire 

LOL. I just saw this. Nice.

R1lee

Isospeed is not a gimmick, ride one and you'll find out quickly that it's just awesome.

If you think monkeys work at trek, then you should attempt to go and replace them.

fastcarbon

Unfortunately marketing types are not scientists or engineers and as with most bike companies the marketing "hype" is a "crock"! But I rode most of the endurance frames and found the Domane to be superior. The test rides included the Roubaix with its' inserts which wasn't bad. But the Domane with bearings isolating the seat tube is the best available today, at least in the opinion of this 70+ rider. I bought one out of necessity, giving up my S-Works Tarmac. The Domane is heavier but still climbs well considering the longer chain stays and wheelbase.

RJM

seems like the same kind of stuff everybody else puts out. Seriously, what did you expect?

wthensler 

Ride my Domane Six with Di2 and tell me what a gimmick it is. Wait a minute, I ain't finished riding it yet.....

grolby

IsoSpeed is one of the most interesting road tech developments out there. Trek markets it as being about compliance and comfort, which of course it does make a big difference in, but it's really a rear suspension system. Think about what it does: it decouples the seat tube from the chainstays and top tube, so it can move. Well, if you do that, the chainstays are ALSO free to move. And so the rear wheel can move vertically. And there you go, suspension. A very low-travel, highly-damped suspension, but suspension all the same.

I assume that Trek has marketing reasons for avoiding calling it a suspension system (I'd guess the word "suspension" doesn't test well with focus groups of roadies or something), but that doesn't change the fact that that's exactly what it is. So it's one of the boldest and most interesting developments in bike tech in the industry mainstream, more because of the decision to implement it at all than the details of the technology. And I'm really curious to see what happens now that it's on their top-end CX bikes, where it will make a real difference.

Bah Humbug

"It's toasted."

Kuotient

Judging by your (zymphad), I'm assuming you've never ridden one.

WhyFi

Yeah, some people get sucked in to it, but would you believe that there are others that are even worse? They actually spread this to others, giving it an even wider audience. What a bunch of maroons those guys are.

znomit

Its better than a French town?

RIRview

Using the words "stupid," "idiocy," "dumb," "moron" in a post...I'd say the OP seems to have some serious anger (or jealousy) issues.

telebianchi

Don't laugh until you taste my Domane's latest red wine ... Magnifique!

gc3

And the score for this thread is....

Troll = 1.0 and BF-41 = 0.5....

....we seem to be getting sucked in every time....

WhyFi

It IS winter.


(Could I see a detailed scoring breakdown?)