Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Road Biking and CrossFit

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Road Biking and CrossFit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-19-11, 03:44 AM
  #1  
Boogieman065
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Boogieman065's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Road Biking and CrossFit

Is anyone here a Crossfitter? I really want to bike more often but with doing 5 WODs a week, I'm not sure how I should incorporate one without harming the performance and progression of the other.

I typically do Crossfit in the afternoon so I'm thinking biking in the morning? I've tried this a few times but was exhausted for the WOD and my time suffered. I usually ride 20-30 miles at a time.
Boogieman065 is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 04:08 AM
  #2  
IndyFelt
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 8

Bikes: 2011 Felt Z6

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Boogieman

Looks like we have a lot in common. I cross fit, ride a bike and a motorcycle. I have actually cut back on the WODs to get my biking in. I'll ride 60 - 90 min and with this heat I am beat afterwords. Look at Cross Fit endurance. They have a bike WOD if you want to do both.
IndyFelt is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 04:12 AM
  #3  
Sourpuss Magee
Senior Member
 
Sourpuss Magee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What is cross fit?
Sourpuss Magee is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 04:57 AM
  #4  
Da Sherm
Gaming Guru
 
Da Sherm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Overpelt, Belgium
Posts: 121

Bikes: 2011 Ridley Orion Ultegra

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sourpuss Magee
What is cross fit?
Some say it's a cult of fanatics that do nothing but talk about cross-fit and brag about their numbers. I for one, will not drink that kool aid.

As for myself, I know a few cross-fitters. I would guess that cycling could impair your crossfit times. But you could argue that the other way, cross-fit can improve your cycling times. You don't need to blow people out of the water with working out. It's not a competition in that sense. If that's the case for you, then you're working out for the wrong reasons.

I'm sure with time and training your body will get used to cycling and cross-fit and your times will get better. Just take satisfaction in knowing you're working out more than the next guy, even if your times are slower.
Da Sherm is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 05:05 AM
  #5  
AdelaaR
Senior Member
 
AdelaaR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Vlaamse Ardennen, Belgium
Posts: 3,898
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Da Sherm
Some say it's a cult of fanatics that do nothing but talk about cross-fit and brag about their numbers. I for one, will not drink that kool aid.
That just taught me nothing about this misterious "cross-fit" at all.
AdelaaR is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 06:32 AM
  #6  
Jordi
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 16

Bikes: 2011 Cervelo R3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
See here:
https://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/what-crossfit.html

Crossfit is what you make of it. If you want to be insane, all about getting jacked up, and completely obsessed about your times, go for it. For me, it's about overall fitness, getting stronger, and getting a more complete workout than I could on my bike. My strength has improved considerably, but so has my endurance. There's a lot of interval training in the WODs and those will undoubtedly improve your cycling. The key is joining a gym with a trainer who understands what YOU want. My trainers are not total meat heads and try to cater to individual goals.

As for the original poster, you will need to sacrifice one thing to improve on the other. There's no way you could dedicate considerable time to cycling doing 5 WODs a week. You need to rest at some point. My ideal balance is 3/4 WODs and 3 rides a week. Unfortunately, my schedule often doesn't allow for it.
Jordi is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 06:33 AM
  #7  
mdrew9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wethersfield, CT
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I crossfitted for a while, you should check out the crossfit endurance page as mentioned above.
mdrew9 is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 06:47 AM
  #8  
Velo Gator
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 14,723

Bikes: Cervélo S2

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked 21 Times in 11 Posts
I had a fitting some by a professional fitter about a month or so ago, and he was on and on about how crossfit is a great way to train for triahlon. When crossfit comes up on a tri forum, it's usually a flame war. The point where people tend to disagree is, does it help your long-course endurance?
Velo Gator is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 09:15 AM
  #9  
byrnemm
In vitro cyclist
 
byrnemm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SOKY, Middle TN
Posts: 334

Bikes: 2005 Specialized Allez Comp Double, 2011 Mercier Kilo Stripper

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Velo Gator
I had a fitting some by a professional fitter about a month or so ago, and he was on and on about how crossfit is a great way to train for triahlon. When crossfit comes up on a tri forum, it's usually a flame war. The point where people tend to disagree is, does it help your long-course endurance?
Crossfit endurance has longer distance intervals, etc. to help with long distance races.

The whole point of Crossfit is non-sport-specific, total body fitness. It is a compromise of speed, agility, power, balance, weight, etc.

From an untrained starting point, Crossfit will improve your power:weight ratio over your entire body. So yeah, you can do crossfit for biking, marathons, triathlons, etc but you won't be part of the elite because crossfit is not designed specifically for... anything.

For long-distance endurance you don't need the overall power (and hence mass/weight) in your arms, back, etc.

In biking the power:weight ratio comes from your legs. Once you can sustain a certain amount of power on the pedals for a certain period of time, the best thing you can do is to drop weight elsewhere. So the muscle mass that crossfit will build in your arms, back, etc is actually detrimental.

But that really starts to make a big difference at a higher level of competition, which we may or may not be at. Dropping 10 lbs will always help your endurance, but having a certain level of all around strength, agility, and coordination will too.

Last edited by byrnemm; 07-19-11 at 12:46 PM.
byrnemm is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 11:45 AM
  #10  
Boogieman065
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Boogieman065's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Awesome, thanks. I do CF at a local gym so I'm kindda stuck to what they organize though. They usually do shorter sprint WODs (no longer that ~15mins)
Boogieman065 is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 10:14 AM
  #11  
RT
The Weird Beard
 
RT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: COS
Posts: 8,554
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I just saw the Reebok 2011 Finals on ESPN last night. Holy Crap, that looks brutal, and yet I want to do it. Can't tell from the threads I've read how it conclusively helps/hinders cycling. It's like an online review of anything - 50% say don't bother, 50% think it's the best thing since the electric knife.

Seems to me if I am able to tone what I have and build a core like the Crossfitters, it would be nothing but win.
RT is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 11:53 AM
  #12  
simonaway427
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada
Posts: 1,430

Bikes: 2010 S1, 2011 F75X

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I was a religious crossfitter for about 4 yrs.....lost interest and much prefer cycling.

Its a great program, if done correctly. But some of those WODs are just screaming for injury - 75 clean and jerks for time? Recipe for bad form and a strained back.
simonaway427 is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 11:59 AM
  #13  
Quel
Senior Member
 
Quel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 3,653
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Crossfit will make you more generally "fit".

Cycling will make you a better cyclist.

You won't necessarily "harm" one or the other by doing both, but you won't improve as significantly as focusing on either. Decide what your goals are and proceed.
Quel is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 12:45 PM
  #14  
RT
The Weird Beard
 
RT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: COS
Posts: 8,554
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Fitness, for sure - that's why I ride (not a racer). Seems to me as a P90X alum that Crossfit is P90X on steroids. The woman who won (Annie Thosidottir) could beat most of the men at the endurance events, and this doesn't seem like a chemically enhanced type of competition, but natural.

Last edited by RT; 09-15-11 at 07:29 PM.
RT is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 07:21 PM
  #15  
OldChipper
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Crossfit - Injuring Elite Athletes

doh!

I mean "Forging Elite Fitness"

But seriously, check out the Crossfit Games on ESPN2. How many of those guys look like Frank Schleck or Cadell Evans? There's your answer.

Crossfit, as has been mentioned, is geared toward overall fitness i.e. it's not a specialized activity. Cycling is a very specialized activity. Crossfit started out as training for good overall fitness to improve other activities (work or play). It has "evolved" into a sport in its own right. Neither good nor bad - just what it is.

I do something more similar to Crossfit Endurance (The Alpine Training Center in Boulder, CO) to get better at my primary activity(s) i.e. ice and alpine climbing. I also enjoy and do a lot of cycling during the last 2 summers (used to race bikes in the mid 90's) and in general I think it provides a good base for cycling in terms of work capacity, core strength and mental toughness. Be clear though, climbing and cycling are my main sports - not working out in the gym. Most of the athletes at the gym have this same approach as does the coach i.e. gym workouts are not an end in themselves. Bottom line though is that once you have a good base, the only thing that will help your cycling is cycling (old school, I know but note my disclaimer regarding base fitness).

I'm an old fart so I find that I can't do anywhere near 5 gym workouts a week and still perform well in my primary sports - just not enough rest. Between seasons, I'll do 3 gym workouts during one week and 2 the next with 2 days of rest per week and gym/outdoor climbing or cycling on the other days. Once I'm "in season," I can only manage 1 or at most 2 gym workouts per week since I'm going hard on the weekends. YMMV especially if you're a young pup.

I would also recommend placing importance on form for any power lifts done in your Crossfit workouts, even if your particular Crossfit gym doesn't. Just too easy to get injured when you're trying to go fast. Doesn't matter how your times compare to someone else. What matters is if you're getting fitter and staying healthy for your main activity.

AND if you want your main "sport" to be Crossfit, that's cool too.
OldChipper is offline  
Old 09-15-11, 07:46 PM
  #16  
wkg
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't know what cross fit is or why you would want to do it but if it's messing up your riding maybe you should just ride your bike.
wkg is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Coobraelque
Training & Nutrition
7
08-14-12 09:20 PM
jbliss92
Training & Nutrition
17
08-13-10 09:20 PM
Frankgt2
General Cycling Discussion
3
07-09-10 06:18 AM
Dheorl
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
4
06-10-10 03:38 AM
Mugambo
Road Cycling
2
06-06-10 01:09 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.