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That's a stunner of a saddle! Love that aged colour. I am sure with all your projects you will find a place for it. Will this saddle let you sit upright on it in comfort or will the bike have to be a scorcher?
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I would prefer an earlier fillet brazed like this vs. later electro forged but really appreciate them all.
Have a freebie mid- 1960's Racer which is the EF frame (and also rims), shares the same chain ring pattern but ashtabula arm / construction.
Under appreciated, yet millions made have to wonder where are they today? My electro forge Racer is a fairly rough project but plans are to resurrect it and have as a guest loaner. Piece of bicycle history with its unique construction, never to be done again.
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Thats quite a handsome bike and nicely done. The top hat decal is my fave.
I would prefer an earlier fillet brazed like this vs. later electro forged but really appreciate them all.
Have a freebie mid- 1960's Racer which is the EF frame (and also rims), shares the same chain ring pattern but ashtabula arm / construction.
Under appreciated, yet millions made have to wonder where are they today? My electro forge Racer is a fairly rough project but plans are to resurrect it and have as a guest loaner. Piece of bicycle history with its unique construction, never to be done again.
I would prefer an earlier fillet brazed like this vs. later electro forged but really appreciate them all.
Have a freebie mid- 1960's Racer which is the EF frame (and also rims), shares the same chain ring pattern but ashtabula arm / construction.
Under appreciated, yet millions made have to wonder where are they today? My electro forge Racer is a fairly rough project but plans are to resurrect it and have as a guest loaner. Piece of bicycle history with its unique construction, never to be done again.
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I've been keeping my eyes out for older Schwinn lightweights for years and have come to the conclusion that not many were made, especially in the large frame size. According to the catalogs, lightweight bikes like the Traveler were available in 23" frames. Try to find one. If I come up with a nice 3 speed Schwinn project, I'll report back here, but I've been looking for the past 25 years and haven't found one yet.
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It was a hugely heavy, dull frame, chrome fenders, non standard wheel size and all. Some may like it but I passed it to a shop that build bikes for the less than fortunate. It was sturdy enough to pull a plow, maybe a farmer bought it.
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I've been keeping my eyes out for older Schwinn lightweights for years and have come to the conclusion that not many were made, especially in the large frame size. According to the catalogs, lightweight bikes like the Traveler were available in 23" frames. Try to find one. If I come up with a nice 3 speed Schwinn project, I'll report back here, but I've been looking for the past 25 years and haven't found one yet.
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike - $200
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Schwinn
model name / number: Suburban
size / dimensions: 3 speed
Vintage Schwinn Suburban 3 speed bike in good condition.
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I've been keeping my eyes out for older Schwinn lightweights for years and have come to the conclusion that not many were made, especially in the large frame size. According to the catalogs, lightweight bikes like the Traveler were available in 23" frames. Try to find one. If I come up with a nice 3 speed Schwinn project, I'll report back here, but I've been looking for the past 25 years and haven't found one yet.
Other brands had tall frames: Dayton, Colson, and Westfield/Columbia. As a matter of fact, someone very recently uncovered a WWII-era tall frame Dayton over at the CABE.
These makers all seemed to model their "lightweights" (as opposed to balloon tire cruisers) off of English designs. In fact, the cottered Schwinn bottom bracket I re-built on that red bike had interchangeable parts with Birmingham Hercules stuff. The adjustable cup and lock ring on the bike are Hercules, and the spindle is from a Phillips.
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I'll play. Just got this today for $10 on CL. If anyone can help me figure out the year of this bike, I'd greatly appreciate it! Even if just a ballpark of year range.Thanks!
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As always, the date best used is stamped on the rear hub.
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Wasn't aware of that,thanks. It says 62 then an 8 spaced separately.
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That would indicate that the hub was made in August 1962. Assuming it's the original wheel, that puts a high-end on the age of the bike. Cosmetics are consistent with an early 60s bike, so likely a 1962 model.
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Yeah, the earlier ones (before the 1960s) are very uncommon in that larger size (though the catalogs say they made them). I would certainly hold out for a 1964 or earlier bike (blade front fender models). I guess that's like Raleigh in some ways, but Schwinn degraded in a number of ways over the years, from high-quality 3-speeds meant for serious riders, to heavy campus/newspaper route type bikes that were durable, but really did not perform well.
Other brands had tall frames: Dayton, Colson, and Westfield/Columbia. As a matter of fact, someone very recently uncovered a WWII-era tall frame Dayton over at the CABE.
These makers all seemed to model their "lightweights" (as opposed to balloon tire cruisers) off of English designs. In fact, the cottered Schwinn bottom bracket I re-built on that red bike had interchangeable parts with Birmingham Hercules stuff. The adjustable cup and lock ring on the bike are Hercules, and the spindle is from a Phillips.
Other brands had tall frames: Dayton, Colson, and Westfield/Columbia. As a matter of fact, someone very recently uncovered a WWII-era tall frame Dayton over at the CABE.
These makers all seemed to model their "lightweights" (as opposed to balloon tire cruisers) off of English designs. In fact, the cottered Schwinn bottom bracket I re-built on that red bike had interchangeable parts with Birmingham Hercules stuff. The adjustable cup and lock ring on the bike are Hercules, and the spindle is from a Phillips.
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Here's something local but it may not be to your taste. Might not be 23" and it's not cheap. Let me know if you want me to keep looking.
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike - $200
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Schwinn
model name / number: Suburban
size / dimensions: 3 speed
Vintage Schwinn Suburban 3 speed bike in good condition.
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike - $200
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Schwinn
model name / number: Suburban
size / dimensions: 3 speed
Vintage Schwinn Suburban 3 speed bike in good condition.
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[QUOTE=2cam16;19233526]I'll play. Just got this today for $10 on CL. If anyone can help me figure out the year of this bike, I'd greatly appreciate it! Even if just a ballpark of year range.Thanks!
All indicators look as though it was made by Raleigh for Huffy.
(fender shape, fender bolt location on rear dropouts, brake handles, crank, and the "Made in England" stickers are good clues for a sleuth like me!)
A good score for 10 bucks!
All indicators look as though it was made by Raleigh for Huffy.
(fender shape, fender bolt location on rear dropouts, brake handles, crank, and the "Made in England" stickers are good clues for a sleuth like me!)
A good score for 10 bucks!
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Thanks bazil!
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From my understanding, a lot of it had to do with Schwinn going the way of "lifetime warranty" on frames as a way to get a leg up over the Huffys and Roadmasters in the American market. And the way they did that was by developing the Electro-forging process of framebuilding to guarantee a frame that would most likely not break. The positive of that was these frames will probably outlive the apocalypse or whatever. The negative was they were heavy and "dead" feeling. So when lighter bikes really came on the scene in the 70's, Schwinn couldn't compete, especially since it would have been prohibitively expensive to retool the Chicago factory to make mass-scale lighter frames.
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Would it really have been prohibitively expensive? Or did they just hope that their investment would keep paying off? A lot of people and companies fall for the fallacy of sunk cost.
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- By the 70's, Schwinn's management was pretty conservative and no longer innovating. Not only did Schwinn fail to see trends like BMX and MTB emerging, (trends they inadvertently have a hand in creating), they were actively against them for a bit, seeing them as faddish and dangerous. They may have had the attitude of "let's wait for this lightweight bicycle nonsense to blow over."
- The electro-forging equipment was indeed expensive and to replace it would have cost a lot of $$. And they probably would have tried to pass this along to the employees ("We'll have to cut benefits/pay to pay for this new equipment") who were pretty disgruntled and would eventually strike in the early 80's.
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Here's something local but it may not be to your taste. Might not be 23" and it's not cheap. Let me know if you want me to keep looking.
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike - $200
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Schwinn
model name / number: Suburban
size / dimensions: 3 speed
Vintage Schwinn Suburban 3 speed bike in good condition.
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike
Vintage Schwinn 3 speed bike - $200
condition: good
make / manufacturer: Schwinn
model name / number: Suburban
size / dimensions: 3 speed
Vintage Schwinn Suburban 3 speed bike in good condition.
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