Brake shudder
08-18-22, 05:23 PM
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Do a Google search for Kool Stop Salmon squeal and see the numerous complains, including here on Bike Forums.
The higher friction the pads, the more prone to squealing. Your eight bikes just don't have squealer brakes. For those who have squealer brakes the salmon pads are a nightmare. I got rid of the squeal on one of my bikes by changing from salmon pads to cheap Shimano pads. The salmon pads squealed regardless of toe in. The Shimano pads were silent even with no toe in.
The higher friction the pads, the more prone to squealing. Your eight bikes just don't have squealer brakes. For those who have squealer brakes the salmon pads are a nightmare. I got rid of the squeal on one of my bikes by changing from salmon pads to cheap Shimano pads. The salmon pads squealed regardless of toe in. The Shimano pads were silent even with no toe in.
I have the salmon pads on 8 different bikes. No squeal on any of them. Depends on the setup, grunge on the rims.... I've read many suggestions on BF by folks over the years that the salmon pads are a good investment, I've never heard anyone mention they are notorious for squealing. During setup trial and error I've had a squeal or two, but I can always adjust the brakes/pads to quiet them down..and they stay that way.
..just first hand experience and an observation...others mileage may vary..
..just first hand experience and an observation...others mileage may vary..
Last edited by Yan; 08-18-22 at 05:31 PM.
08-18-22, 06:13 PM
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So I got some new cheap tires and mounted them. New front wheel was to a Joytech 700 rim with an Araya PX35 rim that I may have rescued from the trash. I adjusted spokes and truing. Problem solved on front brake shudder. There is some on the rear, but that isn’t so dangerous and I am keeping an eye out for a 130 rear. Perhaps in the future I will keep the Ritchey hubs and replace both rims.
The replacement Michelin Protek 35mm tires are cheap and heavy, but just the ticket for my brother and this bike. They slowed the sporty handling down a bit but seem to ride very nice and have a very solid indestructible feel suitable to a casual rider.
The replacement Michelin Protek 35mm tires are cheap and heavy, but just the ticket for my brother and this bike. They slowed the sporty handling down a bit but seem to ride very nice and have a very solid indestructible feel suitable to a casual rider.
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Back with a final update after over a year. Last year, I gave my brother the bike after putting an Araya PX35 rim and older hub on the front and keeping the stock offensive wheel on back. It was rideable, but not how I wanted it.
Stock rear with machined sidewall
I would’ve thought the stock wheels with these machined sidewall rims would be pretty decent. In the meantime, I got a wheel set at a swap meet that needed a bit of work and the rear needed respaced from 135 to 130 for the Jamis. These rims are wider and a better fit for the 35mm tires too. My brother was coming north to visit, so I swapped things over on his bike while he was here.
Nothing fancy
Test ride was done after installing, and mission accomplished. The bike rides wonderfully and those old rims are junk, soon to be separated from the hubs. It was just a learning experience. One can even spin the stock rim and eyeball it rotating, and not see anything amiss. My bother will now head home to Tennessee from his visit up north with a nice riding bike.
Stock rear with machined sidewall
I would’ve thought the stock wheels with these machined sidewall rims would be pretty decent. In the meantime, I got a wheel set at a swap meet that needed a bit of work and the rear needed respaced from 135 to 130 for the Jamis. These rims are wider and a better fit for the 35mm tires too. My brother was coming north to visit, so I swapped things over on his bike while he was here.
Nothing fancy
Test ride was done after installing, and mission accomplished. The bike rides wonderfully and those old rims are junk, soon to be separated from the hubs. It was just a learning experience. One can even spin the stock rim and eyeball it rotating, and not see anything amiss. My bother will now head home to Tennessee from his visit up north with a nice riding bike.
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