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Old 12-09-22, 03:40 PM
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What wheels are these?

I just picked up a 1974 Raleigh Competition with tubular wheel set. The wheels are not original; it has Campy hubs, no idea what model, and gray anodized convex rims. There’s a gold sticker on each rim but the lettering - if there was any - has long since rubbed off. I haven’t pulled the wheel to check, but I believe the freewheel is a BSA threaded Maillard compact, 13 or 14 to 28.







I’ll play with these awhile, but ultimately I’m going to get a set of clinchers, I know zip about using sew-ups and don’t trust them for the kind of long distance city riding I like to do.

Any ideas?
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I've seen that type of decal/sticker on Matrix rims, though I don't know enough about them to guess a model.
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My best guess is that Matrix ISO is the model.

From ebay:



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Originally Posted by noobinsf
My best guess is that Matrix ISO is the model.

From ebay:


looks like a winner! How are these in terms of quality?
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Old 12-09-22, 05:41 PM
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What wheels are those? Those are donor wheels. You disassemble them for the Triomphe/Victory/Athena hubs and build those up in your choice of (new) clinchers. Keep the old spokes in your bin in case you need them later.
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Originally Posted by Roypercy
looks like a winner! How are these in terms of quality?
Matrix made great wheels back then, enjoy! Service those hubs though, you take care of them, they will take care of you.
They'll also outlast the rims they are laced to.
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Matrix was an in-house Trek brand as I recall
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I had a Trek 1200 with Shimano RX100 and those rims.

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Originally Posted by clubman
I had a Trek 1200 with Shimano RX100 and those rims.
A Trek 1200 would have had Matrix clincher rims, not tubulars.
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Rims like this can be tough on your nipples
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
A Trek 1200 would have had Matrix clincher rims, not tubulars.
You are correct...didn't see the word tubular. Obviously I'm no expert speed reader.
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Originally Posted by clubman
You are correct...didn't see the word tubular. Obviously I'm no expert speed reader.
I came across a Matrix catalog at some point that showed the ISO was available as both a tubular and a clincher. Can’t seem to find that image now, though.
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Velobase shows a very similar clincher.

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Originally Posted by Roypercy
looks like a winner! How are these in terms of quality?
I agree; looks like Matrix ISO (as "isosceles" not "International Standards Organization"). I've had several sets in use for decades without problems. The hard anodizing doesn't help braking performance, and if built without rim washers can eventually crack at the spoke holes.
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Originally Posted by evwxxx
Matrix was an in-house Trek brand as I recall
Yes, the extrusions came from a place in Rockford Ill, whose name I no longer recall. The extrusions were cut to length, rolled into circles, pinned and drilled in the old red barn in Waterloo WI, where Trek got its start.
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I came across a Matrix catalog at some point that showed the ISO was available as both a tubular and a clincher. Can’t seem to find that image now, though.
Yes, the tubular version came out first, followed a year or so later by a clincher version. I have half a dozen or so factory rejects I use for stretching tubular tires.
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