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Old 10-12-22, 01:52 PM
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Raleigh crank with a hand as spider

I am helping a widow sell some of her husbands bikes and parts how do I find the value of some of the parts. Most notably is a Raleigh crank with a hand and some older leather seats made of leather.

she also has a Westfield a Peugeot p10 frame and a bunch of coaster hubs.

any suggestions ?
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Originally Posted by bikemikemi
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any suggestions ?
The first step would be to take photos so that forum members might help identify the parts and their relative condition.

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Originally Posted by bikemikemi
I am helping a widow sell some of her husbands bikes and parts how do I find the value of some of the parts. Most notably is a Raleigh crank with a hand and some older leather seats made of leather.

she also has a Westfield a Peugeot p10 frame and a bunch of coaster hubs.

any suggestions ?
Get your post count up and post pics, we need to see exact condition, even then will be subjective.

The "hand" crank is likely from a Rudge brand bike and while cool, only worth much to the right person.

Saddles can be a far different story, again depending on condition can be worth a bit depending.....

There is a valuation forum in the C+V menu that may help but here is good to.
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Originally Posted by merziac
Get your post count up and post pics, we need to see exact condition, even then will be subjective.

The "hand" crank is likely from a Rudge brand bike and while cool, only worth much to the right person.
I was thinking of Rudge too.... pretty distinctive.
I did find this photo on flickr...



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This is exactly the same crank
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Makes sense. It does have an arm.
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These cranks are not common, but also not in much demand. Depending on condition, you may get $20 - 30 for it. Saddles could demand quite a bit more depending on model and condition. A few more posts and you'll be able to upload pictures, which will help quite a bit.

Coaster brake hubs are not likely to demand much unless they are pre-1960 or special BMX hubs.

It's great that your helping here.
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Depending on the condition of the Peugeot P10, it may be worth something not-insignificant. The P10 was a mid-range model, but if there is an intervening letter (PA-10, PR-10, PX-10), it could be desirable depending on condition. I am not an expert, but if you take good photos of the frame details, the experts here will likely be able to nail down a model and year.
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That is a Rudge crank. Wasn't Rudge bought by Raleigh?
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I would love that crank!! I’ll swap my Raleigh crank with you! My Rudge is Heron-headed and that should be rectified.
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The Red Hand of Ulster.
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Originally Posted by RustyJames
I would love that crank!! I’ll swap my Raleigh crank with you! My Rudge is Heron-headed and that should be rectified.
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Originally Posted by Cynikal
That is a Rudge crank. Wasn't Rudge bought by Raleigh?
Yep, I don't know when Raleigh took 'em, exactly, but it was for sure before 1952.
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Thank you but I’ll have to pass, I’m trying to get some $’s for the widow and taking one part for another does not meet the objective. I appreciate the offer
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Wouldn't it be funny if someone made one with a middle finger salute?
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Originally Posted by bikemikemi
Thank you but I’ll have to pass, I’m trying to get some $’s for the widow and taking one part for another does not meet the objective. I appreciate the offer
I would be happy to drop a few shekel into the widow’s coffers for the hand crank. PM me if that sounds like something you would be interested in.
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I would be happy to drop a few shekel into the widow’s coffers for the hand crank. PM me if that sounds like something you would be interested in.
I dunno, exchange rate very unfavorable right now.

Seriously, good on you for helping out.

(Getting the post count up, sorry.)
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crankarm with hand -

if the backside of the arm exhibits a raised letter N sitting in a recess the manufacturer is Nicklin

mention made above of "the hand of Ulster"

that's what I used to think as well...until a fellow forum member with vastly greater knowledge put me right:

"The hand is nothing to do with Ulster @juvela.
It was originally the motif used by the 'Whitworth' company before they joined up with 'Rudge', to become 'Rudge-Whitworth'.

There is no association between any of these companies/founding families and Northern Ireland. There is a common misconception that the symbol was adopted because Rudge (motorcycles) had won the famous 'Ulster GP' race., and that Dan Rudge could trace his family history back to Ireland.

However, the periodical "Cycling" records in its 8th. August, 1891 edition, that trademark number 156827 was granted to Mr. Charles Henry Pugh of the Whitworth Works, Birmingham for use on " bicycles, tricycles and other velocipedes and parts of the same". Pugh is described as a screw and velocipede manufacturer, and he applied for the trademark of a raised hand on the background of a bicycle wheel.
(Information supplied by the Stratford-Rudge Co.)."

best wishes with the sale of these cycling bits!

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