redshift1

Hi All

Around ten years ago, over a few years, I accumulated most of the groupset of what I am calling "8-speed Campagnolo Record".

8-speed cassette use anyway will be my ( belated ) intended usage ( my frame has 130 mm rear spacing. )

I realise the individual parts are not necessarily labelled as "8-speed" and that derailleurs for example are not limited accordingly, but I seem to recall most or all of the parts I bought dated around late 80's to mid-90's. e.g. the 8-speed downtube shifters I have are labelled with "New Product for 1992". )

Does anyone know an information source ( book, internet site, etc. ) of the history of Campagnolo ( Record ) components for this time frame ?

Just so that I can work out exactly what I have, mainly for interest as I am pretty sure what I have is all compatible with each other.

Thanks.

Bianchigirll 

AFAIK most of the 8spd kit aside from the rear derailleurs, rear hubs and shifters was holdover from the friction era. Although some things changed like the Croce de Anue cranks dropped to chorus group.

I assume you poked around Velobase. I’ll look around and see if I have any ‘93ish catalogs.

redshift1

Thank you. And actually I had totally forgotten about Velobase.

Bianchigirll 

This is from a '92 catalog on facebook homepage





Chorus

P!N20

Campagnolo introduced 8 speed in 1990 for the 1991 model year.

https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...ampagnolo.html

Spaghetti Legs 

https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2...gnolo+Archive/

Archive of a few Campy catalogues. The official Campagnolo website also has old catalogues and spare parts lists archived.

Steel Charlie

I, for one, certainly wish that it were more popular. Took me forever to get a buyer for a group that I had. Still have a couple cassettes that seem to have established some cosmic bond with the parts drawer.

Spaghetti Legs 

Functionally I think 8 speed was “Peak Campagnolo”. It functions flawlessly; also looks good. Drawbacks are 13-26 for widest range cassette available and that is probably why not as many folks interested. You can, fortunately, use a Racing Triple crank (need long cage RD) or after market compact crank and if you need more range, use a Wheels Mfg spacer set to convert a Shimano 8 speed cassette to campy spacing.

clubman 

Yes. I swear my 96 Chorus didn't miss a shift for three years of good fast rides. The levers are so intuitive.

It's nice to think a 39 - 26 was all you needed 26 years ago.

repechage

I have a bike with Ergo 8- was taught a lesson though, I won an auction for a NOS titanium cassette- Styling... ooops needs the EXA freehub body, I think similar to current just not as wide.
took 18 months of searching to find a NOS EXA freehub- purchased for a decent price.
so now a set of user wheels and coffeehouse bragging rights wheels, tubular of course.

repechage

I have a bike with Ergo 8- was taught a lesson though, I won an auction for a NOS titanium cassette- Styling... ooops needs the EXA freehub body, I think similar to current just not as wide.
took 18 months of searching to find a NOS EXA freehub- purchased for a decent price.
so now a set of user wheels and coffeehouse bragging rights wheels, tubular of course.

Retoocs

No body had a 26. 39x23 was what people ran for mountain rides and a 12-21 for the flats. 12-23 cassettes were standard equipment.

redshift1

Two great resources ! Along with Velobase, I think I now have enough to try to i.d. my components. Thanks to all.

redshift1

Living in Australia, I don't see a lot of classic and vintage bike action here ( maybe I'm not looking hard enough... ) so my sole source of pricing of these sorts of components is Ebay. I am surprised people say there is not much interest in Campagnolo 8 speed as the Campagnolo 8 speed cassettes seem to fetch good prices. Also a lot of Campagnolo's other 8 speed stuff. Maybe you guys have alternate lower cost sources of these parts ?

Was going to post Ebay completed links but they are so long. Looking under ( Ebay ) Advanced Search, Completed Sales, I see some expensive Campag. 8 speed stuff has sold.

And someone said maybe it's because of the 26 tooth limit of the 8 speed cassette and the fact we are getting older so cannot push these gears as easily when climbing. That's a good point given the age of people likely to be interested in 60's to 90's bikes.

But wouldn't that also mean stuff for pre-8 speed bicycles ( i.e. pre-about 1990 ) would also not be popular for the same reason ( limited size large sprocket on their freewheels ) ? So are 6 and 7 speed parts and the bikes that had this equipment not popular as well ?

Drillium Dude 

Knock on wood, it's still all I need

Full disclosure: until I built my 8-speed bike, the lowest combo I had was 42/24. The 39/26 would be convert to 42/29, which is 5 teeth larger than anything I've ever run out back (save a single experience on a borrowed 1X MTB).

DD

C9H13N 

With 6 or 7 speeds and friction shifting there’s lots of ways to make large cogs work



NR with Soma cage and 13-32 Suntour Ultra-6

clubman 

Correct...I've even forgotten what I was riding.

repechage

prior to index and cassettes, many more possible ways to tinker and get a 28 with a short cage mechanism, a Suntour long cage?
up to a 32 or even 34t.
cassettes brought "paired" and even riveted sets of cogs.
Campagnolo 8 had a number of model levels, shifter types. It is drawing from a lower overall inventory, demand is variable, new old stock items are often priced quite high.

majmt 

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think that the difference is that the EXA combination has one spline wider than the rest so the cassette builds up correctly on the freehub. IIRC EXA cassettes should work on non-EXA freehubs.

majmt 

That looks like Chorus. Is the photo in the catalog wrong or did they upgrade the Record pedal to include the tension adjustment later? I picked up the NOS ones below for a ‘96 spec.

Roger M

Fwiw, Miche manufacturers several 8 speed Campagnolo cassettes. I bought a 13-28 last year from a UK retailer for relatively cheap. It works fine with a short cage derailleur, but the rd was a bit finicky to set up properly(53/39).

El Chaba

I get this, but think that Campy really tweaked a few things which all came together with the introduction of 9 speed….This would be a great pub discussion, with no correct answers, to be discussed at length with no clear conclusion. I really like the term, “Peak Campagnolo”….

georges1

Those pedals were made by look because it has the look delta cleats

C9H13N 

My 2023 project is combining ‘93 metal body Ergos with a ‘92 Icarus MTB derailleur and the IRD 46-30 mini NR style crank. I have wheels with 8 speed Chorus hubs. Only thing missing is the Miche cassette which is on the way from Canada.

Wish me luck! I’ve never heard anyone say anything good about these Campy MTB bits.

Choke 

On the MTB side, Campy made a 13-34 8sp cassette. Needless to say they are unobtanium and demand crazy prices if you can find one.

Allow me to be the first. I have a full Euclid bike and while the parts are heavy and overbuilt, they function just fine. I also use Campy MTB cranks on two road bikes, one as a double (50-34) and one as a triple. They fit right in with the road parts and I think only or two people have ever guessed they were MTB parts, though I've had several ask me what they are.