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New helmet recommendations?
Hello,
I'm looking for a new road cycling helmet and my priorities are 1. safety 2. weight. 3. aero. Do you have any recommendation? It's for everyday riding in Belgium .
Many thanks,
Eric
I'm looking for a new road cycling helmet and my priorities are 1. safety 2. weight. 3. aero. Do you have any recommendation? It's for everyday riding in Belgium .
Many thanks,
Eric
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Aero and low weight will be no problem getting.
You have many good helmet brands in the EU, but I’ll tell you I just grabbed Mavic Comete Ultimate MIPS at a sale price here in the USA, and while I don’t know if was to do with the recent change of ownership at Mavic, you may want look and see if that ones on sale there, too.
The Comete Ultimate is built with EPS 4D foam which is supposed to offer 30% more shock absorption than standard EPS, and even the large size is well under 300g, which I consider the upper limit for a light helmet. I really appreciate the super-clean strap system on the helmet, which uses thin, round cord and slides through the back easily for effortless adjustment.
I love the looks, too:
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Many thanks for your feedbacks .
Are there brands known to fit oval shaped heads better? I don't have the possibility to test out many models, my LHS carry a very small number of brands.
I saw that Virginia Tech ratings don't give a clear advantage to either SPIN, MIPS, or Wavecell technology. This said the best rated helmets do have one of these features so It's a priority for me. I wear a full face (TLD Stage) in mtb equipped with MIPS.
I love the Mavic Comet! I didn't know that about the foam. Was thinking about the POC Octal MIPS also, is it still up to date? It looks like a mushroom but should fit the bill on paper. As well as the MET Rivale or Tantra for example. The Abus Aibraker and Lazer Genesis are also on my list.
Are there brands known to fit oval shaped heads better? I don't have the possibility to test out many models, my LHS carry a very small number of brands.
I saw that Virginia Tech ratings don't give a clear advantage to either SPIN, MIPS, or Wavecell technology. This said the best rated helmets do have one of these features so It's a priority for me. I wear a full face (TLD Stage) in mtb equipped with MIPS.
I love the Mavic Comet! I didn't know that about the foam. Was thinking about the POC Octal MIPS also, is it still up to date? It looks like a mushroom but should fit the bill on paper. As well as the MET Rivale or Tantra for example. The Abus Aibraker and Lazer Genesis are also on my list.
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I bought a dozen helmets over the span of 5 or so months. Some comments from me and others are in the thread above.
SPIN, MIPS, Wavecell- they all attempt to do the same thing. And because there is so much variability in your head hitting the ground(angle, speed, point of impact, etc) that means there isnt a clear tech that is better than the others.
That tech is only good for 1 type of impact, and its been theorized on forums that having hair and/or a cycling cap does the same thing as those techs.
I ended up keeping the Abus Stormchaser and MET Rivale MIPS.
- The Abus Stormchaser is crazy light. Like really light. The straps easily disconnect for cleaning, the fixed straps lay flat, it is vented enough for me, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. Padding is mininmal, but I dont notice that in use as I wear a cycling cap with it.
- The MET Rivale is really nicely finished and easy to use(some helmets are fiddly to put on). It has MIPS, its well vented, and padding is good for comfort without a cap. The straps lay flat which is key, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. The chin strap is meant to easily loosen/tighten so you give a quick tug each time you put it on, which is different from most helmets, but I like it. The extra length of strap is contained well with a band.
These were both ordered from Europe and shipped to me, so its good that I happened to like them the most since returning wouldnt have been the easiest/cheapest. I really wanted to like the POC Ventral Air SPIN because of the quality, but I am between sizes and the larger size made me look like Toad from Mario.
One to consider- Giro implements MIPS into a couple of their helmets not by adding a liner, but by building it into the shell. Giro Aether Spherical for example is really nice. I bought one to try out for fitting and the strap just wasnt long enough. The helmet itself was fantastic. Something to consider- the tech being built into the helmet is really slick.
I bought a dozen helmets over the span of 5 or so months. Some comments from me and others are in the thread above.
SPIN, MIPS, Wavecell- they all attempt to do the same thing. And because there is so much variability in your head hitting the ground(angle, speed, point of impact, etc) that means there isnt a clear tech that is better than the others.
That tech is only good for 1 type of impact, and its been theorized on forums that having hair and/or a cycling cap does the same thing as those techs.
I ended up keeping the Abus Stormchaser and MET Rivale MIPS.
- The Abus Stormchaser is crazy light. Like really light. The straps easily disconnect for cleaning, the fixed straps lay flat, it is vented enough for me, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. Padding is mininmal, but I dont notice that in use as I wear a cycling cap with it.
- The MET Rivale is really nicely finished and easy to use(some helmets are fiddly to put on). It has MIPS, its well vented, and padding is good for comfort without a cap. The straps lay flat which is key, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. The chin strap is meant to easily loosen/tighten so you give a quick tug each time you put it on, which is different from most helmets, but I like it. The extra length of strap is contained well with a band.
These were both ordered from Europe and shipped to me, so its good that I happened to like them the most since returning wouldnt have been the easiest/cheapest. I really wanted to like the POC Ventral Air SPIN because of the quality, but I am between sizes and the larger size made me look like Toad from Mario.
One to consider- Giro implements MIPS into a couple of their helmets not by adding a liner, but by building it into the shell. Giro Aether Spherical for example is really nice. I bought one to try out for fitting and the strap just wasnt long enough. The helmet itself was fantastic. Something to consider- the tech being built into the helmet is really slick.
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I bought a dozen helmets over the span of 5 or so months. Some comments from me and others are in the thread above.
SPIN, MIPS, Wavecell- they all attempt to do the same thing. And because there is so much variability in your head hitting the ground(angle, speed, point of impact, etc) that means there isnt a clear tech that is better than the others.
That tech is only good for 1 type of impact, and its been theorized on forums that having hair and/or a cycling cap does the same thing as those techs.
I ended up keeping the Abus Stormchaser and MET Rivale MIPS.
- The Abus Stormchaser is crazy light. Like really light. The straps easily disconnect for cleaning, the fixed straps lay flat, it is vented enough for me, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. Padding is mininmal, but I dont notice that in use as I wear a cycling cap with it.
- The MET Rivale is really nicely finished and easy to use(some helmets are fiddly to put on). It has MIPS, its well vented, and padding is good for comfort without a cap. The straps lay flat which is key, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. The chin strap is meant to easily loosen/tighten so you give a quick tug each time you put it on, which is different from most helmets, but I like it. The extra length of strap is contained well with a band.
These were both ordered from Europe and shipped to me, so its good that I happened to like them the most since returning wouldnt have been the easiest/cheapest. I really wanted to like the POC Ventral Air SPIN because of the quality, but I am between sizes and the larger size made me look like Toad from Mario.
One to consider- Giro implements MIPS into a couple of their helmets not by adding a liner, but by building it into the shell. Giro Aether Spherical for example is really nice. I bought one to try out for fitting and the strap just wasnt long enough. The helmet itself was fantastic. Something to consider- the tech being built into the helmet is really slick.
I bought a dozen helmets over the span of 5 or so months. Some comments from me and others are in the thread above.
SPIN, MIPS, Wavecell- they all attempt to do the same thing. And because there is so much variability in your head hitting the ground(angle, speed, point of impact, etc) that means there isnt a clear tech that is better than the others.
That tech is only good for 1 type of impact, and its been theorized on forums that having hair and/or a cycling cap does the same thing as those techs.
I ended up keeping the Abus Stormchaser and MET Rivale MIPS.
- The Abus Stormchaser is crazy light. Like really light. The straps easily disconnect for cleaning, the fixed straps lay flat, it is vented enough for me, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. Padding is mininmal, but I dont notice that in use as I wear a cycling cap with it.
- The MET Rivale is really nicely finished and easy to use(some helmets are fiddly to put on). It has MIPS, its well vented, and padding is good for comfort without a cap. The straps lay flat which is key, and glasses stay put when stored and looking down. The chin strap is meant to easily loosen/tighten so you give a quick tug each time you put it on, which is different from most helmets, but I like it. The extra length of strap is contained well with a band.
These were both ordered from Europe and shipped to me, so its good that I happened to like them the most since returning wouldnt have been the easiest/cheapest. I really wanted to like the POC Ventral Air SPIN because of the quality, but I am between sizes and the larger size made me look like Toad from Mario.
One to consider- Giro implements MIPS into a couple of their helmets not by adding a liner, but by building it into the shell. Giro Aether Spherical for example is really nice. I bought one to try out for fitting and the strap just wasnt long enough. The helmet itself was fantastic. Something to consider- the tech being built into the helmet is really slick.
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For "everyday riding", pretty much any helmet with MIPS is a great choice. Here's Virginia Tech's helmet safety ratings, which seem to be highly regarded (although some debate their testing):
https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicyc...t-ratings.html Note that there's little relationship between safety and the price of the helmet.
I currently own and recommend:
Bell Z20/Zephyr MIPS - great fit, top ranked safety, low profile, superb ventilation
Lazer Sphere MIPS - less expensive, nice looking, great fit, top ranked safety.
Kask does not offer MIPS but to me they make the highest quality, best fitting and best looking helmets. Their pricing is a bit steep, though. I currently own both a Utopia and Protone, they're both great. Depending on your definition, these might not helmets for "everyday riding" though.
I personally don't recommend the Wavecel helmets. I had both the Specter and XXX at different points, both fit me well but I found them to be way too hot which is an instant deal killer for me. Also, the strap system on the Specter kept loosening on me on rides which got old quickly.
https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicyc...t-ratings.html Note that there's little relationship between safety and the price of the helmet.
I currently own and recommend:
Bell Z20/Zephyr MIPS - great fit, top ranked safety, low profile, superb ventilation
Lazer Sphere MIPS - less expensive, nice looking, great fit, top ranked safety.
Kask does not offer MIPS but to me they make the highest quality, best fitting and best looking helmets. Their pricing is a bit steep, though. I currently own both a Utopia and Protone, they're both great. Depending on your definition, these might not helmets for "everyday riding" though.
I personally don't recommend the Wavecel helmets. I had both the Specter and XXX at different points, both fit me well but I found them to be way too hot which is an instant deal killer for me. Also, the strap system on the Specter kept loosening on me on rides which got old quickly.
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I just got a Smith. Very happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08134M14B...roduct_details
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Yeah, I really like both of these helmets, but neither is (officially) sold in the US. You'll need to import either one, which may be a negative for some people.
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I'm very happy with my new Scott Centric Plus - light, comfortable, and 5-star safety rating (Virginia Tech test), second-gen MIPS. However, my priority was ventilation more than aero. I tried on top-level helmets from Lazer, Kask, Specialized, Giro, Bell, Smith, and Scott. The Scott was immediately recognized as the right fit for my head. I had an Abus Aventor for a couple of weeks. It was decent, but was noticeably warm due to a lack of air flow at the forehead. I like the Scott better in every way for my needs.
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I also recognize that I am overly picky in this one area, and its really mostly that I am overly picky with a certain few parts of a helmet. I am definitely an outlier here and went to an admittedly goofy extent in order to get helmets I like.
Forgot to mention- some Abus helmets are available on amazon, the Viantor and Aventor, which are lower road models.
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For "everyday riding", pretty much any helmet with MIPS is a great choice. Here's Virginia Tech's helmet safety ratings, which seem to be highly regarded (although some debate their testing):
https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicyc...t-ratings.html Note that there's little relationship between safety and the price of the helmet.
I currently own and recommend:
Bell Z20/Zephyr MIPS - great fit, top ranked safety, low profile, superb ventilation
Lazer Sphere MIPS - less expensive, nice looking, great fit, top ranked safety.
Kask does not offer MIPS but to me they make the highest quality, best fitting and best looking helmets. Their pricing is a bit steep, though. I currently own both a Utopia and Protone, they're both great. Depending on your definition, these might not helmets for "everyday riding" though.
I personally don't recommend the Wavecel helmets. I had both the Specter and XXX at different points, both fit me well but I found them to be way too hot which is an instant deal killer for me. Also, the strap system on the Specter kept loosening on me on rides which got old quickly.
https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicyc...t-ratings.html Note that there's little relationship between safety and the price of the helmet.
I currently own and recommend:
Bell Z20/Zephyr MIPS - great fit, top ranked safety, low profile, superb ventilation
Lazer Sphere MIPS - less expensive, nice looking, great fit, top ranked safety.
Kask does not offer MIPS but to me they make the highest quality, best fitting and best looking helmets. Their pricing is a bit steep, though. I currently own both a Utopia and Protone, they're both great. Depending on your definition, these might not helmets for "everyday riding" though.
I personally don't recommend the Wavecel helmets. I had both the Specter and XXX at different points, both fit me well but I found them to be way too hot which is an instant deal killer for me. Also, the strap system on the Specter kept loosening on me on rides which got old quickly.
Wavecells are oriented in a way the ventilation is partly obstructed. And it looks a bit weird.. I wonder how it lasts in the long run too. I like some HJC helmets also, especially the aero versions but again no MIPS..
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I just got a Smith. Very happy with it.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08134M14B...roduct_details
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True. As mentioned, I lucked out that the two which would be the least convenient to return were the two I liked the most. All others were from Amazon or WesternBike so its free shipping and returns.
I also recognize that I am overly picky in this one area, and its really mostly that I am overly picky with a certain few parts of a helmet. I am definitely an outlier here and went to an admittedly goofy extent in order to get helmets I like.
Forgot to mention- some Abus helmets are available on amazon, the Viantor and Aventor, which are lower road models.
I also recognize that I am overly picky in this one area, and its really mostly that I am overly picky with a certain few parts of a helmet. I am definitely an outlier here and went to an admittedly goofy extent in order to get helmets I like.
Forgot to mention- some Abus helmets are available on amazon, the Viantor and Aventor, which are lower road models.
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Don't forget Specialized Helmets with ANGi crash detection system. If you ride alone or in areas with limited population. The helmet tracks your location and notifies your contacts should a crash be detected. It is another layer of protection, I know someone had a bad crash on a trail and was severely concussed along with other injuries. Could not operate phone nor verbalize location post-crash, had to rely on someone who came down the trail an unknown period of time later. That sold the concept for me.
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I'm satisfied with the Bell Formula MIPS after three years. Great value for the features and attention to detail. It's a much better value than my POC Omne Air SPIN, which is a good helmet but not a great value compared with the Bell.
The Bell is fully finished with hard polycarbonate around the lower edge, covering the soft EPS foam. The POC isn't -- the EPS foam is exposed on the lower edge. Not a huge deal in practical use, just an example of Bell going the extra mile. And the MIPS harness is much more elaborate than SPIN. POC's SPIN is just a slightly refined harness and some better than average detachable padding strips.
The MIPS does work as described. It would take too long to explain how I know. But while riding as sweep/tailgunner on a group ride, I was clobbered on the top of the Bell Formula MIPS by an oddly place railroad crossing arm (much farther away from the tracks than usual, and I had stopped a safe distance from the tracks) that I didn't see and which came down unexpectedly -- the train was still at least half a mile away and barely moving, and the warning bell and lights had only just sounded, so I didn't have time to move. Anyway, the crossing arm bonked off the top of the helmet, the helmet dislodged very slightly to the side while the harness stayed put. Didn't hurt, barely felt any impact. Not even a scratch to the helmet. The group I was with couldn't believe it was no worse than that.
I'd happily get the Bell Stratus or Z20 based on my experience with the lower priced Formula, although I'm not sure there's enough difference in weight, etc, to justify the higher prices. Although Googling around just now, it appears the 2020 higher prices have dropped a bit and the Stratus and Z20 are more affordable now.
One thing I do like about the POC is they sit lower around the skull and provide more protection to the sides and occipital region. And some ABUS helmets appear to be similarly designed, with an inward taper that might help with peripheral vision above the eyebrows when in the drops or on aero bars. The POC Omne Air SPIN brow is visible in my upper peripheral view when I'm in the drops, and it sits too low for use with aero bars.
I also have a Catlike Mixino, which is very lightweight, very minimalist, but too small for me so I can't say how it fits. I'm giving it to a friend.
The Bell is fully finished with hard polycarbonate around the lower edge, covering the soft EPS foam. The POC isn't -- the EPS foam is exposed on the lower edge. Not a huge deal in practical use, just an example of Bell going the extra mile. And the MIPS harness is much more elaborate than SPIN. POC's SPIN is just a slightly refined harness and some better than average detachable padding strips.
The MIPS does work as described. It would take too long to explain how I know. But while riding as sweep/tailgunner on a group ride, I was clobbered on the top of the Bell Formula MIPS by an oddly place railroad crossing arm (much farther away from the tracks than usual, and I had stopped a safe distance from the tracks) that I didn't see and which came down unexpectedly -- the train was still at least half a mile away and barely moving, and the warning bell and lights had only just sounded, so I didn't have time to move. Anyway, the crossing arm bonked off the top of the helmet, the helmet dislodged very slightly to the side while the harness stayed put. Didn't hurt, barely felt any impact. Not even a scratch to the helmet. The group I was with couldn't believe it was no worse than that.
I'd happily get the Bell Stratus or Z20 based on my experience with the lower priced Formula, although I'm not sure there's enough difference in weight, etc, to justify the higher prices. Although Googling around just now, it appears the 2020 higher prices have dropped a bit and the Stratus and Z20 are more affordable now.
One thing I do like about the POC is they sit lower around the skull and provide more protection to the sides and occipital region. And some ABUS helmets appear to be similarly designed, with an inward taper that might help with peripheral vision above the eyebrows when in the drops or on aero bars. The POC Omne Air SPIN brow is visible in my upper peripheral view when I'm in the drops, and it sits too low for use with aero bars.
I also have a Catlike Mixino, which is very lightweight, very minimalist, but too small for me so I can't say how it fits. I'm giving it to a friend.
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Don't forget Specialized Helmets with ANGi crash detection system. If you ride alone or in areas with limited population. The helmet tracks your location and notifies your contacts should a crash be detected. It is another layer of protection, I know someone had a bad crash on a trail and was severely concussed along with other injuries. Could not operate phone nor verbalize location post-crash, had to rely on someone who came down the trail an unknown period of time later. That sold the concept for me.
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I'm satisfied with the Bell Formula MIPS after three years. Great value for the features and attention to detail. It's a much better value than my POC Omne Air SPIN, which is a good helmet but not a great value compared with the Bell.
The Bell is fully finished with hard polycarbonate around the lower edge, covering the soft EPS foam. The POC isn't -- the EPS foam is exposed on the lower edge. Not a huge deal in practical use, just an example of Bell going the extra mile. And the MIPS harness is much more elaborate than SPIN. POC's SPIN is just a slightly refined harness and some better than average detachable padding strips.
The MIPS does work as described. It would take too long to explain how I know. But while riding as sweep/tailgunner on a group ride, I was clobbered on the top of the Bell Formula MIPS by an oddly place railroad crossing arm (much farther away from the tracks than usual, and I had stopped a safe distance from the tracks) that I didn't see and which came down unexpectedly -- the train was still at least half a mile away and barely moving, and the warning bell and lights had only just sounded, so I didn't have time to move. Anyway, the crossing arm bonked off the top of the helmet, the helmet dislodged very slightly to the side while the harness stayed put. Didn't hurt, barely felt any impact. Not even a scratch to the helmet. The group I was with couldn't believe it was no worse than that.
I'd happily get the Bell Stratus or Z20 based on my experience with the lower priced Formula, although I'm not sure there's enough difference in weight, etc, to justify the higher prices. Although Googling around just now, it appears the 2020 higher prices have dropped a bit and the Stratus and Z20 are more affordable now.
One thing I do like about the POC is they sit lower around the skull and provide more protection to the sides and occipital region. And some ABUS helmets appear to be similarly designed, with an inward taper that might help with peripheral vision above the eyebrows when in the drops or on aero bars. The POC Omne Air SPIN brow is visible in my upper peripheral view when I'm in the drops, and it sits too low for use with aero bars.
I also have a Catlike Mixino, which is very lightweight, very minimalist, but too small for me so I can't say how it fits. I'm giving it to a friend.
The Bell is fully finished with hard polycarbonate around the lower edge, covering the soft EPS foam. The POC isn't -- the EPS foam is exposed on the lower edge. Not a huge deal in practical use, just an example of Bell going the extra mile. And the MIPS harness is much more elaborate than SPIN. POC's SPIN is just a slightly refined harness and some better than average detachable padding strips.
The MIPS does work as described. It would take too long to explain how I know. But while riding as sweep/tailgunner on a group ride, I was clobbered on the top of the Bell Formula MIPS by an oddly place railroad crossing arm (much farther away from the tracks than usual, and I had stopped a safe distance from the tracks) that I didn't see and which came down unexpectedly -- the train was still at least half a mile away and barely moving, and the warning bell and lights had only just sounded, so I didn't have time to move. Anyway, the crossing arm bonked off the top of the helmet, the helmet dislodged very slightly to the side while the harness stayed put. Didn't hurt, barely felt any impact. Not even a scratch to the helmet. The group I was with couldn't believe it was no worse than that.
I'd happily get the Bell Stratus or Z20 based on my experience with the lower priced Formula, although I'm not sure there's enough difference in weight, etc, to justify the higher prices. Although Googling around just now, it appears the 2020 higher prices have dropped a bit and the Stratus and Z20 are more affordable now.
One thing I do like about the POC is they sit lower around the skull and provide more protection to the sides and occipital region. And some ABUS helmets appear to be similarly designed, with an inward taper that might help with peripheral vision above the eyebrows when in the drops or on aero bars. The POC Omne Air SPIN brow is visible in my upper peripheral view when I'm in the drops, and it sits too low for use with aero bars.
I also have a Catlike Mixino, which is very lightweight, very minimalist, but too small for me so I can't say how it fits. I'm giving it to a friend.
Basically I'm looking for:
- MIPS system
- <250g weight
- great covering (you are absolutely correct about the ABUS and POC helmets which sit lower around the skull)
- polycarbonate protection around the lower edge of the helmet
- bright colors available (or white)
I read POC developed a partnership with Volvo which is the leader in car safety: https://group.volvocars.com/news/saf...rates-with-poc . It should help. I'm seeing the prices of the POC Octal MIPS dropped quite a bit considering it's not their latest model. Apart from the bulky look it ticks all the boxes. And it has a great ventilation too.
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Pulse_ how close do you live to Audergem? The Specialized store (Hotwheelz) there has lots of helmets, all specialized of course, but you could try all the models to see what fits your head best. I’ve crashed 3 Specialized helmets in the last 2 years, very hard at high speed in two instances. No concussions. You get what you pay for in my opinion.
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Pulse_ how close do you live to Audergem? The Specialized store (Hotwheelz) there has lots of helmets, all specialized of course, but you could try all the models to see what fits your head best. I’ve crashed 3 Specialized helmets in the last 2 years, very hard at high speed in two instances. No concussions. You get what you pay for in my opinion.