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Old 09-12-22, 08:51 AM
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Please, what remover for this freewheel?


OK I'm stumped.
I have a box full of removers and ARGGGGH!
Please, how to I get this off?
Nothing I have seems to fit.
Thoughts?
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Is this an ATOM FR-4?

I just found tried an FR-4 and I can't get it over the axle nut and I can't get the axle nut off.

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Old 09-12-22, 09:11 AM
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I got it, it is an FR-4
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That's the deal with the atom. There are super thin walled atom removers. One of my favorite freewheels is an atom. 14-34 6 speed just made for touring. I love it.
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Originally Posted by OTS
Is this an ATOM FR-4?

I just found tried an FR-4 and I can't get it over the axle nut and I can't get the axle nut off.
Grab the freewheel-end outermost locknut with either a set of locking pliers or a bench vice with a grooved jaw. Use a good cone spanner on the flats of the other side cone (not the locknut), and if you have a good enough grip on the fw side you should be able to get it off.

When you re-build a rear wheel, if possible lock the fw side cone with a thin locknut and use a shorter spacer between that and the outer, dropout-facing locknut. It's important that the fw-side cone is locked VERY tight; otherwise should it loosen it will recess inward and destroy the hub.

If there is no thin locknut holding that cone in position, it's the outer one that does, and then IT is damm tight instead. With a thin locknut doing the job you can tighten the outer locknut just enough so it doesn't move by itself when the wheel comes off, but is easy to remove to take the fw off - and the axle stays in place.
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Got it thanks everyone.
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Old 09-12-22, 12:23 PM
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Zeus and Phil freewheel removers will fit that model, and slip over the locknut. The problem is finding one, as they've been out of production for decades. They do turn up on the used market fairly often, e.g. eBay or swaps.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Zeus and Phil freewheel removers will fit that model, and slip over the locknut.
The Zeus won't fit. It has points about .855" dia, the Atom has points .865"; and the Zeus has lands at .810" while the Atom has them at .775".
The Zeus won't fit an Atom FW, its lands are too shallow for the inner points on the fw splines.
The Atom won't fit a Zeus FW, its points are too large for the fw lands.
The Zeus will fit a Zeus FW (of course), but it also fits a Regina Extra.
The Atom won't fit the Regina.
(I tried all the above.)



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Originally Posted by oneclick
The Zeus won't fit. It has points about .855" dia, the Atom has points .865"; and the Zeus has lands at .810" while the Atom has them at .775".
Have you tried Phil?
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Have you tried Phil?
No, don't have one. Does it fit Zeus/Regina?
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Pretty sure that I have a couple of those - no name splined 2...
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Originally Posted by oneclick
The Zeus won't fit. It has points about .855" dia, the Atom has points .865"; and the Zeus has lands at .810" while the Atom has them at .775".
The Zeus won't fit an Atom FW, its lands are too shallow for the inner points on the fw splines.
The Atom won't fit a Zeus FW, its points are too large for the fw lands.
The Zeus will fit a Zeus FW (of course), but it also fits a Regina Extra.
The Atom won't fit the Regina.
(I tried all the above.)
Interesting. I just tried it here, and you're right, the Zeus tool won't fit a splined Atom freewheel. But the Phil and Bicycle Research tools do fit:


I don't have a splined Regina to test, but I do have a Zeus freewheel. All three tools fit, although the Bicycle Research felt a little sloppy. I know the Phil works well to remove Zeus freewheels, because that's what I used before I got the Zeus tool.



I guess the moral of the story is to have a variety of tools available.

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