"Cycling tax"?
04-07-23, 10:22 AM
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I think this is the way to go. Only weighs 5lbs. Get yourself a rack and strap it on. You'll be ready! Kris "Tanto" Paronto approves.
https://www.amazon.com/Luxfer-Alumin...54860362&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Luxfer-Alumin...54860362&psc=1
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04-07-23, 01:36 PM
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04-07-23, 01:38 PM
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04-07-23, 01:47 PM
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04-07-23, 02:11 PM
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These points are why I've listened to too many people whine and moan about the costs to insure a Corvette. Corvettes and other high performance cars are not basic transportation and a sane person shouldn't expect ownership costs to be the same as a Honda Civic.
Also while I own a CO2 inflator, I've yet to use one in over 50 years of riding bikes. So one is not a necessary evil of owning a bike leaving me to wonder why this is a problem
Also while I own a CO2 inflator, I've yet to use one in over 50 years of riding bikes. So one is not a necessary evil of owning a bike leaving me to wonder why this is a problem
Seriously, if you are using a CO2 inflator, you've already sorted yourself into the group willing to pay extra for convenience. Essentially it's a luxury item as compared to having to carry and use a mini-pump. This is like calling the difference in price between bottled water and tap a "water tax".
04-07-23, 03:47 PM
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I come from the world of Corvettes and for generations now we have what we refer to as the "Corvette tax". That is additional expense added to ordinary items, or completely dedicated items, specifically for the purpose of extracting more money from owners than your average transportation appliance.
Do we as cyclists suffer the same tax? I think we do. Case in point. A few years ago when I began to get serious about biking, I went to Walmart and found a CO2 inflator that takes the standard 12g CO2 cartridges just like every Daisy BB gun made in the last 50 years. If I had known then what I know now, I would have bought 50 of them. The inflator cost something like $10 and you can get a 5 pack of 12g Daisy cartridges for $2.50. Now that my bike collection has expanded, I have tried to find the same inflator to no avail. I can find various 16g and 20g cartridges, some with threaded fittings, some without. And I can find inflators that accept 16g or 20g cartridges. And of course, the inflators are $20-30 on average and you pay almost as much for a single threaded 16g cartridge as you would for a 5-pack of 12g Daisy cartridges. But that cheap inflator that accepts cheap 12g cartridges has gone the way of the dinosaur.
So must we accept being screwed just because our hobby is seen as a cash cow by specialty producers? Have you seen this in your experience in the hobby?
Do we as cyclists suffer the same tax? I think we do. Case in point. A few years ago when I began to get serious about biking, I went to Walmart and found a CO2 inflator that takes the standard 12g CO2 cartridges just like every Daisy BB gun made in the last 50 years. If I had known then what I know now, I would have bought 50 of them. The inflator cost something like $10 and you can get a 5 pack of 12g Daisy cartridges for $2.50. Now that my bike collection has expanded, I have tried to find the same inflator to no avail. I can find various 16g and 20g cartridges, some with threaded fittings, some without. And I can find inflators that accept 16g or 20g cartridges. And of course, the inflators are $20-30 on average and you pay almost as much for a single threaded 16g cartridge as you would for a 5-pack of 12g Daisy cartridges. But that cheap inflator that accepts cheap 12g cartridges has gone the way of the dinosaur.
So must we accept being screwed just because our hobby is seen as a cash cow by specialty producers? Have you seen this in your experience in the hobby?
04-07-23, 04:01 PM
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04-07-23, 04:54 PM
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04-07-23, 05:14 PM
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04-07-23, 05:21 PM
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I think this is the way to go. Only weighs 5lbs. Get yourself a rack and strap it on. You'll be ready! Kris "Tanto" Paronto approves.
https://www.amazon.com/Luxfer-Alumin...54860362&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Luxfer-Alumin...54860362&psc=1
OK, so Wally World may not own them, but Blackburn has replaced virtually every other competing product on the shelves. So Blackburn is effectively the "house brand" even if they don't have stake in the company.
Seriously, if you are using a CO2 inflator, you've already sorted yourself into the group willing to pay extra for convenience. Essentially it's a luxury item as compared to having to carry and use a mini-pump. This is like calling the difference in price between bottled water and tap a "water tax".
04-07-23, 06:11 PM
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replacing a tube and inflating a tire during an event consumes too much valuable time
just tie the tire to isolate the problem area and get goin !
04-07-23, 06:23 PM
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Well, hell, if Tanto suggests it, who am I to argue?
OK, so Wally World may not own them, but Blackburn has replaced virtually every other competing product on the shelves. So Blackburn is effectively the "house brand" even if they don't have stake in the company.
Not really looking for their stuff but I've never run across Blackburn searching on Amazon.
I don't see it like that at all. I chose to go the CO2 route mainly for the size and how quick you can get back up to pressure. This is a consideration for me since I participate in several triathlons a year. I suck at the swim and the run, so I make all of my time on the ride. I've been fortunate so far not to have a flat during an event but I'm sure my time is coming. And when it does, even the extra few seconds between a CO2 inflator and a hand pump will be worth it to me.
OK, so Wally World may not own them, but Blackburn has replaced virtually every other competing product on the shelves. So Blackburn is effectively the "house brand" even if they don't have stake in the company.
Not really looking for their stuff but I've never run across Blackburn searching on Amazon.
I don't see it like that at all. I chose to go the CO2 route mainly for the size and how quick you can get back up to pressure. This is a consideration for me since I participate in several triathlons a year. I suck at the swim and the run, so I make all of my time on the ride. I've been fortunate so far not to have a flat during an event but I'm sure my time is coming. And when it does, even the extra few seconds between a CO2 inflator and a hand pump will be worth it to me.
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I seem to have had a fair share of Labor Day occurring issues with hot water tanks, air conditioners and such over the years. Fortunately (knock on wood) my repairs were able to be handled the Saturday before Labor Day. No AC in my neck of the woods would be rough that weekend with a house full of guests.
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04-07-23, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VegasJen
Not really looking for their stuff but I've never run across Blackburn searching on Amazon.
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Continuing to insist on things that are so easily refuted (and have been clearly refuted so many times) is just weird.
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We're going to add "house brand" to the list of things you don't understand. Definition.
Good grief. There is sooo much Blackburn stuff on Amazon that they have their own store page. And you can find it on countless other websites, in bike shops, five and dimes, etc.
Continuing to insist on things that are so easily refuted (and have been clearly refuted so many times) is just weird.
Good grief. There is sooo much Blackburn stuff on Amazon that they have their own store page. And you can find it on countless other websites, in bike shops, five and dimes, etc.
Continuing to insist on things that are so easily refuted (and have been clearly refuted so many times) is just weird.
Blackburn is even well known and respected in the niche touring realm, if only for their racks.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=blackburn..._ts-doa-p_3_15
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Weird, or trolling.
Blackburn is even well known and respected in the niche touring realm, if only for their racks.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=blackburn..._ts-doa-p_3_15
Blackburn is even well known and respected in the niche touring realm, if only for their racks.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=blackburn..._ts-doa-p_3_15
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I still have a rear rack with his first and last name on it.
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Yea I had to replace my AC last year that took my budget for my guest bath rebuild. $9k for a 3.5 ton multistage setup. Saves me a bunch of money on my electric bill so I guess that is an offset. Going to try and get my guest bath toward the end of the year after I pay uncle sam an addition sum of cash next week. .
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04-07-23, 11:26 PM
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I don't haunt a lot of bike shops, but so far the only place I've ever really seen Blackburn is in Wally World. Whatev.