What can you all tell me about this Miyata Team?
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What can you all tell me about this Miyata Team?
I picked this up over the summer. It has full campy throughout. I’m in the process of refurbishment.
But, I know very little about this model Miyata. It looks fast and is very lightweight. I seem to remember reading this was sold as a frame set only in this color.
Any info is appreciated as well as what is it worth?
Thank
But, I know very little about this model Miyata. It looks fast and is very lightweight. I seem to remember reading this was sold as a frame set only in this color.
Any info is appreciated as well as what is it worth?
Thank
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The '90 Team included a brazed fd fitting and chrome chainstays, but I don't know about that paint combination.
Welcome to the Miyata/Campy club. It's a select group.
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But the frame - I have SurferRosa'a fork' seatlug, fork, the CroMo stickers, clamp-on FD, the chrome though it's nearly all painted over (it was probably a saving grace in the rain), RD cable runs like Surfer's but a braze-on for the SunTour Symmetric shifter. No ST WB bosses, no HT pump peg. It looks like the OP's fork crown is different but similar blades.
My frame is race steep but not radical. TT is not long, in fact identical to my Mooney which I always felt was slightly short for my long arms, but - the handling is right on! No bad habits at all. I've struggled on my ti custom with speed wobbles, getting worse as I get older, more aware of my mortality and less strong and confident. This bike is rock solid steady at 45, about the fastest I've gone so far. I think the shorter TT has a lot to do with it. Perhaps both Miyata and Peter Mooney know something. It also rides and feels like a pure thoroughbred. (And sounds like it. I still have a metal sound on chip seal I haven';t chased down yet and it sounds like a perfect chrome moly bell.)
Long stems work just fine. I have a 155 on it just like I do on my Mooney. Both fit like gloves with sublime (though different) rides.
I"m still wondering what year my bike is. '85 or later for Symmetric? Other details like SurferRosa's. Someone told me they thought '90. I'm thinking more like '85. (When did Symmetric come out? Miyata might have been tight with SuTour like Fuji was in the '70s. If so, an appearance on a Miyata could have preceeded the debut by a years, (Superbe came out on the Fuji Pro 1977 and debuted in '78. I worked at a Fuji shop '77 while racing my '76 Pro. The bike in the window had me drooling all summer.)
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My Pro Miyata I picked up a few weeks ago from hazetguy looks to be somewhere between your two Miyatas. I believe mine was SunTour Superbe. Hazerguy provided Superbe FD and RD plus unparked brakes but everything had been outside so long, nove of that is useeable. (Maybe I can save the FD.) It's all Cyclone now.
But the frame - I have SurferRosa'a fork' seatlug, fork, the CroMo stickers, clamp-on FD, the chrome though it's nearly all painted over (it was probably a saving grace in the rain), RD cable runs like Surfer's but a braze-on for the SunTour Symmetric shifter. No ST WB bosses, no HT pump peg. It looks like the OP's fork crown is different but similar blades.
My frame is race steep but not radical. TT is not long, in fact identical to my Mooney which I always felt was slightly short for my long arms, but - the handling is right on! No bad habits at all. I've struggled on my ti custom with speed wobbles, getting worse as I get older, more aware of my mortality and less strong and confident. This bike is rock solid steady at 45, about the fastest I've gone so far. I think the shorter TT has a lot to do with it. Perhaps both Miyata and Peter Mooney know something. It also rides and feels like a pure thoroughbred. (And sounds like it. I still have a metal sound on chip seal I haven';t chased down yet and it sounds like a perfect chrome moly bell.)
Long stems work just fine. I have a 155 on it just like I do on my Mooney. Both fit like gloves with sublime (though different) rides.
I"m still wondering what year my bike is. '85 or later for Symmetric? Other details like SurferRosa's. Someone told me they thought '90. I'm thinking more like '85. (When did Symmetric come out? Miyata might have been tight with SuTour like Fuji was in the '70s. If so, an appearance on a Miyata could have preceeded the debut by a years, (Superbe came out on the Fuji Pro 1977 and debuted in '78. I worked at a Fuji shop '77 while racing my '76 Pro. The bike in the window had me drooling all summer.)
But the frame - I have SurferRosa'a fork' seatlug, fork, the CroMo stickers, clamp-on FD, the chrome though it's nearly all painted over (it was probably a saving grace in the rain), RD cable runs like Surfer's but a braze-on for the SunTour Symmetric shifter. No ST WB bosses, no HT pump peg. It looks like the OP's fork crown is different but similar blades.
My frame is race steep but not radical. TT is not long, in fact identical to my Mooney which I always felt was slightly short for my long arms, but - the handling is right on! No bad habits at all. I've struggled on my ti custom with speed wobbles, getting worse as I get older, more aware of my mortality and less strong and confident. This bike is rock solid steady at 45, about the fastest I've gone so far. I think the shorter TT has a lot to do with it. Perhaps both Miyata and Peter Mooney know something. It also rides and feels like a pure thoroughbred. (And sounds like it. I still have a metal sound on chip seal I haven';t chased down yet and it sounds like a perfect chrome moly bell.)
Long stems work just fine. I have a 155 on it just like I do on my Mooney. Both fit like gloves with sublime (though different) rides.
I"m still wondering what year my bike is. '85 or later for Symmetric? Other details like SurferRosa's. Someone told me they thought '90. I'm thinking more like '85. (When did Symmetric come out? Miyata might have been tight with SuTour like Fuji was in the '70s. If so, an appearance on a Miyata could have preceeded the debut by a years, (Superbe came out on the Fuji Pro 1977 and debuted in '78. I worked at a Fuji shop '77 while racing my '76 Pro. The bike in the window had me drooling all summer.)
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So this bike is closer, age-wise than I thought to my old Fuji. Ride-wise, it shares similarities (thankfully not as quick steering or high BB'd; real blessings in Cat 3/4 races but not now) but the feel! This tubing feels wonderful! Alive, stiff, all the glowing stuff they say about the good Cro-Mo.
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My team Miyata was one of the best riding bikes I have ever owned. This is the first red one I’ve seen and I worked for a Miyata dealer. That’s a good looking bike.
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I picked this up over the summer. It has full campy throughout. I’m in the process of refurbishment.
But, I know very little about this model Miyata. It looks fast and is very lightweight. I seem to remember reading this was sold as a frame set only in this color.
Any info is appreciated as well as what is it worth?
Thank
But, I know very little about this model Miyata. It looks fast and is very lightweight. I seem to remember reading this was sold as a frame set only in this color.
Any info is appreciated as well as what is it worth?
Thank
it would be a big help to see the top tube without the cover also what do the tubing stickers say that can help date
I have an 84 and and 85 team
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The 86 catalog pic shows it in blue with the same fork crown, tubing decals, head tube decal and drive side chrome chainstay. Other decals look different. You might try an 87 catalog.
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I think the 88s and newer had unicrown forks.
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There's a red/white one in this thread. Contact the poster.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...am-miyata.html
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Just went for a ride on my Pro Miyata, looked down and got reminded I have the ovalized "aero" fork blades and seatstays like the OP's, not SurferRosa's round seatstays. When did those start? Still trying to narrow the build date down.
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Have you posted the serial number?
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this was driving me crazy, but i think I have the answer
it is an 87 available only as a frame only see page 22 https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2087.pdfhe fully equipped team looked like it retained the blue with black head tube see page 2
but also the team is also shown in blue and white colors ???? page 7
the over all specs on page 26 say it is blue and white and would have come 7 speed dura ace
so I would guess that page 2 was done before final color scheme was known and that the final color schemes were
wonderful frames, as noted I have 2 84 which is double butted, 85 which is triple butted, but not splined...... I had an 89 1400 that was spline triple butted, but id died due to the crack in the aero brake cable routing problme
it is an 87 available only as a frame only see page 22 https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2087.pdfhe fully equipped team looked like it retained the blue with black head tube see page 2
but also the team is also shown in blue and white colors ???? page 7
the over all specs on page 26 say it is blue and white and would have come 7 speed dura ace
so I would guess that page 2 was done before final color scheme was known and that the final color schemes were
- equipped team was blue/white and
- frame only was the red white
wonderful frames, as noted I have 2 84 which is double butted, 85 which is triple butted, but not splined...... I had an 89 1400 that was spline triple butted, but id died due to the crack in the aero brake cable routing problme
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this was driving me crazy, but i think I have the answer
it is an 87 available only as a frame only see page 22 https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2087.pdfthe fully equipped team look like it retained the blue with black head tube see page 2
but also is shown in blue and white colors ???? page 7
the over all specs on page 26 say it is blue and white and would have come 7 speed dura ace
so I would guess that page 2 was done before final color scheme was known and that the final color scemes were
it is an 87 available only as a frame only see page 22 https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2087.pdfthe fully equipped team look like it retained the blue with black head tube see page 2
but also is shown in blue and white colors ???? page 7
the over all specs on page 26 say it is blue and white and would have come 7 speed dura ace
so I would guess that page 2 was done before final color scheme was known and that the final color scemes were
- equipped team was blue/white and
- frame only was the red white
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The 90 or 91s came as frame only also. I have one of those.