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Old 11-16-20, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CargoDane
I'm imagining a bunch of middle-aged men along the same street, all trying to bunny-hop while the kids are looking on, leaning their crossed arms on the BMX handlebars.
You sit on the kid side of that story, do things for a while, then you sit on the middle aged side. Life is good.
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Originally Posted by downtube42
You sit on the kid side of that story, do things for a while, then you sit on the middle aged side. Life is good.
I know. I'm not one of the kids. I still find it funny, though
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Ali Clarkson shows the mechanics best, in my opinion. There are two parts to a big bunny hop, and the first is a manual. This gets the front wheel up and allows you to raise your CG by standing on the pedals when your front wheel is off the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5zBbLWIhHY
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
I have been mountain biking for 23 years. I’m pretty good at clearing big logs and technical obstacles..

But I still can’t do a true proper bunny-hop. I still need clip-less to get fully off the ground.

I have recently decided I would make myself learn this with flats. I think I have pulled off a few small ones, but I am mostly still flailing.
Same here it's why I don't ride flats on mountain bikes.
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Bunny hopping a full suspension bike is a massively more difficult skill to master. I have the scars to prove it. You try and jump and instead of pushing your body into the air the suspension compresses.

Full suspension bikes are a young man's game. Use old guys don't heal fast enough, that is why I sold the bike after only a few months.

I've sailed over unexpected storm drains on my road bike before. Just jump your body into the air than lift the bike to meet you. If you have to think about it you are probably doing it wrong.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
Bunny hopping a full suspension bike is a massively more difficult skill to master. I have the scars to prove it. You try and jump and instead of pushing your body into the air the suspension compresses.

Full suspension bikes are a young man's game. Use old guys don't heal fast enough, that is why I sold the bike after only a few months.

I've sailed over unexpected storm drains on my road bike before. Just jump your body into the air than lift the bike to meet you. If you have to think about it you are probably doing it wrong.
You have to load the suspension just like you would on a motorcycle.
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
You have to load the suspension just like you would on a motorcycle.
Yup, slower and bigger movements.
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Originally Posted by CargoDane
Yup, slower and bigger movements.
If you insist
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IME, no one says "j-hop." it's a weird regional thing that sticks around now because of the internet. I hope it goes away.

pulling up both wheels at the same time is a quick, lazy, and inefficient technique that gets the job done sometimes. pulling up the front wheel first is just a good technique for getting a high bunnyhop. I learned how to do it on a heavy, cheap BMX bike when I was 13 years old and it's definitely awkward until you get the timing right, much like doing an ollie on a skateboard. one way you might get practice it to stand on the ground next to the bike and practice pulling the handlebar up suddenly and trusting the handlebar forward to lift the rear wheel and level out the bike. most of the power of getting the bike off the ground starts with lifting with your arms, which is why BMX guys tend to have huge forearms. the second step is getting the bike to float under your feet without actually taking your feet off the pedals. so there's a yank of the arms, followed by a jump from the feet.

See also: Brad Simms

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
If you insist
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Originally Posted by CargoDane
I'm going to head up your way next summer see some sights do some riding then head out to visit a couple fiends in Finland and Sweden.

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I'm going to head up your way next summer see some sights do some riding then head out to visit a couple fiends in Finland and Sweden.
Cool, I hope to be able to travel again next summer too (Covid-depending).
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Originally Posted by CargoDane
Cool, I hope to be able to travel again next summer too (Covid-depending).
Yea next years trip was actually this years trip then COVID happened
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bunnyhopping a bicycle is like jumping on a pogo stick without the help of a spring. (of course, on a bike with suspension, the rebound can help.) pull up with your hands and unweight your feet. synchronizing those two motions takes practice and coordination.
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Lookup cyclocross barrier hopping. Might be helpful. Might not.
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This thread makes me sad. And disappointed. And it makes me slowly lower my head, eyes closed, slowly expelling air from my puffed cheeks (with that quiet “ppfffffffff” sound) gently shaking my head in a “This can’t be real” type of way. I fear for our future.
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster
This thread makes me sad. And disappointed. And it makes me slowly lower my head, eyes closed, slowly expelling air from my puffed cheeks (with that quiet “ppfffffffff” sound) gently shaking my head in a “This can’t be real” type of way. I fear for our future.
Why? Some people have discovered that they might want to try something new with their bikes - learn a new skill. Why does that make you "fear for our future"?
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Originally Posted by CargoDane
Why? Some people have discovered that they might want to try something new with their bikes - learn a new skill. Why does that make you "fear for our future"?

Because it made me aware of a large part of the population that entirely missed out on a fundamental aspect of cycling in their youth. If I believe the children are our future, and these children are simultaneously amazed and unable to bunny hop, then yes, I fear for our future. And I fear for your sense of humor.
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster
Because it made me aware of a large part of the population that entirely missed out on a fundamental aspect of cycling in their youth. If I believe the children are our future, and these children are simultaneously amazed and unable to bunny hop, then yes, I fear for our future. And I fear for your sense of humor.
They don't learn because it is something only old guys do now....
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster
Because it made me aware of a large part of the population that entirely missed out on a fundamental aspect of cycling in their youth. If I believe the children are our future, and these children are simultaneously amazed and unable to bunny hop, then yes, I fear for our future. And I fear for your sense of humor.
Well, this thread should put you at ease, because those same children that didn't learn it as children, attempt to learn it belatedly.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
Bunny hopping a full suspension bike is a massively more difficult skill to master. I have the scars to prove it. You try and jump and instead of pushing your body into the air the suspension compresses.

Full suspension bikes are a young man's game. Use old guys don't heal fast enough, that is why I sold the bike after only a few months.

I've sailed over unexpected storm drains on my road bike before. Just jump your body into the air than lift the bike to meet you. If you have to think about it you are probably doing it wrong.
That is not a bunny hop, or at least not what is being talked about here (watch the videos). That is an easy way of hopping that has serious limits on what it will let you clear. It also does not work well with flats.

I believe what your are talking about is sometimes called an English Bunny Hop. What most people here mean is the American Bunny Hop (or J hop) is far more effective once mastered. And it does not require clipless. This is the technique that people will spends hours of practice trying to nail.

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learn to bunnyhop:
find a spot with a runway to practice
put a solid object like a small box or a 2x4 in your path
pedal at it and try to lift your bike over it without touching it
repeat until you can do this successfully.
if you need more than that, you're overthinking it.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
learn to bunnyhop:
find a spot with a runway to practice
put a solid object like a small box or a 2x4 in your path
pedal at it and try to lift your bike over it without touching it
repeat until you can do this successfully.
if you need more than that, you're overthinking it.
This is not going to teach you to bunny hop. You can easily clear a 2x4 without doing anything close to a proper bunny-hop. As someone who sucks at bunny hopping, I can attest to this.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
This is not going to teach you to bunny hop. You can easily clear a 2x4 without doing anything close to a proper bunny-hop. As someone who sucks at bunny hopping, I can attest to this.
it's a start. of course, you'll need to move up from there and learn to get higher by improving your technique. getting both wheels in the air long enough to get over any object allows the rider to clear the first mental gate preventing them from doing anything else. that's how I started and at my peak, I could easily hop over a 24" tall object.
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