C & O Canal tour ?
#26
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thruhiker, thank you very much for your detailed advice. i backpack but nothing like your level and have never used water filtration. i will look into both your recommendations. trying to go easy on the expenses. i have all the equipment i need in costa rica but it is very expensive to ship to the states so i am having to purchase everything. major bummer as i have good stuff at home. (airports still closed)
my understanding is that the water pump handles were removed due to covid. is that correct ? have you heard anything about their return ? i checked park service website but they did not say.
that app sounds like a great idea
fla trail and 15 time co canal transit are very impressive. thanks again for sharing your knowledge
my understanding is that the water pump handles were removed due to covid. is that correct ? have you heard anything about their return ? i checked park service website but they did not say.
that app sounds like a great idea
fla trail and 15 time co canal transit are very impressive. thanks again for sharing your knowledge
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"Water Fountains and Wells - well pumps are beginning to open, but may not be available in all areas."
Since you can't fly out of CR right now, I wouldn't worry about it until you're actually able to fly back and begin the ride.
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For about the last 2 years the region has been stuck in a weather pattern of southerly winds bringing up a lot of Gulf of Mexico moisture. This spring has been quite rainy so fenders & wider tires might be good for the C&O. As for camping, it might help to call the individual campgrounds for details on current COVID restrictions.
July is about the worst time of year around here. Although it will get decent by Fort Frederick, and comfortable in western Maryland, Hancock, Cumberland.
It would be even nicer along the GAP. The GAP is more interesting to me.
Either way enjoy, and be safe. Carry lots of water.
#29
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The pumps are not dependable. Even before covid there were many missing their handles or not working. Also the water is treated with iodine. Imo it taste awful. Depending on your daily miliage you can easily get to towns once or twice a day. Here is a list of towns that have at least a convenience store. I will put the miliage mark in front and this is starting at the D.C. end. Corresponding to the markers on the canal.
Mm 15 great falls visitor center snacks water
mm 48 Point of Rocks. Convienence store/deli
mm 55 Brunswick bike shop resturants small grocery store
Mm 75 sheperdstown convenience store +lots more but spread out
mm 100 williamsport convenience store resturant small grocery
Mm 126 Hancock bike shop grocery restaurants stores
157 Pawpaw small grocery and convenience store
184 cumberland large town.
this is from memory and a few journals these are the towns and places I'm most familiar with miliage is not 100% accurate. Also these are small towns and a lot of the places have limited hours.
I did not include Harpers Ferry. The pedestrian bridge is still closed to the best of my knowledge.
Another thing Dominoes pizza delivers to Swains lock mm18.
a filter is convenient but not imperative. You could just plan on town stops and carry water purification tablets or a couple ounces of clorox for emergencies. Google treating water with clorox.
Mm 15 great falls visitor center snacks water
mm 48 Point of Rocks. Convienence store/deli
mm 55 Brunswick bike shop resturants small grocery store
Mm 75 sheperdstown convenience store +lots more but spread out
mm 100 williamsport convenience store resturant small grocery
Mm 126 Hancock bike shop grocery restaurants stores
157 Pawpaw small grocery and convenience store
184 cumberland large town.
this is from memory and a few journals these are the towns and places I'm most familiar with miliage is not 100% accurate. Also these are small towns and a lot of the places have limited hours.
I did not include Harpers Ferry. The pedestrian bridge is still closed to the best of my knowledge.
Another thing Dominoes pizza delivers to Swains lock mm18.
a filter is convenient but not imperative. You could just plan on town stops and carry water purification tablets or a couple ounces of clorox for emergencies. Google treating water with clorox.
#30
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When did you check, because yesterday, the NPS website said:
"Water Fountains and Wells - well pumps are beginning to open, but may not be available in all areas."
Since you can't fly out of CR right now, I wouldn't worry about it until you're actually able to fly back and begin the ride.
"Water Fountains and Wells - well pumps are beginning to open, but may not be available in all areas."
Since you can't fly out of CR right now, I wouldn't worry about it until you're actually able to fly back and begin the ride.
right now i am about 150 miles off the coast of texas on my ship. will be returning to an american port next week. can not go home to c.r. so perfect time to do the c&o
last time i checked the park service site was 2 or 3 days ago. thks for the info. plan to start ride july 10th ish
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thruhiker. thks for all that info. i will follow your advice on the water purification option although maybe not the expensive one. again thks
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FYI, though I know you're talking about the C&O, I rode the GAP last summer and found that the water story was excellent. The various organizations that maintain the trail have done a great job with water availability and signage. When there was a known water source out of service, they had signs that warned of it - fill up here, next source is closed. I carried two 20oz bottles and filled both whenever I could. No problem. I always camped at sites with water. I did not carry a filter, used the hydrants all the way (parked at Cumberland and went to P'burg and back). No issues, no runs, no problems. I found that bikecando was very helpful and pretty current. I printed and carried their maps so could keep an eye out for next water source.
However those we're "the halcyon days" prior to the the world turning upside down. I have NO current information on what life is like there now. Little did I know how lucky I was to "just to it" last August.
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However those we're "the halcyon days" prior to the the world turning upside down. I have NO current information on what life is like there now. Little did I know how lucky I was to "just to it" last August.
GAP tour 2019
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hey prowler, just finished your gap thread. very enjoyable. i like your bike.
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Thank you. Yes, carefree times. Just endless forests and hard work. Watching the weather. Camping under the stars. Who knew life could change so much. I read a lot of science fiction but did not expect what we have now.
I hope you can ride the C&O or the GAP or both. Memories for a lifetime.
I hope you can ride the C&O or the GAP or both. Memories for a lifetime.
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I did the C&O and GAP last year. Some of this info might be a repeat of others posted here but here are some links and apps I found useful. Note, cell service on the C&O is sporadic.
Great web sites: https://gaptrail.org/ and www.bikecando.com
Apps:
GAP app for iPhones only - GAP Trail
C&O app - C&O Canal Explorer Mobile App
Be sure to check the National Park Service website before you go for last minute updates: https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvisit/conditions.htm
and mile-by-mile guide to services: https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvis...itled-2018.pdf
Have a great trip!
Great web sites: https://gaptrail.org/ and www.bikecando.com
Apps:
GAP app for iPhones only - GAP Trail
C&O app - C&O Canal Explorer Mobile App
Be sure to check the National Park Service website before you go for last minute updates: https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvisit/conditions.htm
and mile-by-mile guide to services: https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvis...itled-2018.pdf
Have a great trip!
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I’ll be riding from Cumberland to DC next weekend. Weather looks good all week, so the towpath conditions should be fine, and although a little hot, I plan on camping one night and staying in a hotel the other. Might do the GAP in the fall. This is my annual ride for the past 15 years, and it will serve as a bit of training in advance of a trip to Finland in August. My legs are definitely not as strong as usual, with the lack of regular bike commuting.
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alleycat, thks for the advice
allan s, i hope you post on your ride . good luck on the trip
allan s, i hope you post on your ride . good luck on the trip
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Same here. I’m going to shove 60 miles down my throat on Wednesday. The upside to touring this time of year, which I usually don’t do, is the amount of daylight. I can leave early, take my time and not have to worry about sunset. I think proper pacing will be the biggest challenge.
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I’ll be riding from Cumberland to DC next weekend. Weather looks good all week, so the towpath conditions should be fine, and although a little hot, I plan on camping one night and staying in a hotel the other. Might do the GAP in the fall. This is my annual ride for the past 15 years, and it will serve as a bit of training in advance of a trip to Finland in August. My legs are definitely not as strong as usual, with the lack of regular bike commuting.
Unless in Cumberland it's gonna be very hot........and humid........
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I went to a small middle school in Washington, DC in the mid 1980s that offered a bike field trip from Cumberland, MD to Georgetown, Washington, DC on the C & O Canal, 180 miles as I recall ... Everyone and their bikes (maybe 15-20 people) were loaded into vans, and driven from DC to Cumberland, MD.
Some highlights I still remember were:
- camping for the first time,
- the Paw Paw tunnel,
- Sharpsburg, MD and Antietam,
- escaping from the pack with a small group of friends and getting in big trouble! Park Rangers were called to find us.
I don't recall how many days it took us, maybe 3-4.
As I recall, there weren't too many places to eat or have your bike fixed along the way, so planning for food stops, provisions, tools and parts will be important.
I understand some of the lock houses have been available to rent for lodging along the way. I don't know how that's working these days.
Some highlights I still remember were:
- camping for the first time,
- the Paw Paw tunnel,
- Sharpsburg, MD and Antietam,
- escaping from the pack with a small group of friends and getting in big trouble! Park Rangers were called to find us.
I don't recall how many days it took us, maybe 3-4.
As I recall, there weren't too many places to eat or have your bike fixed along the way, so planning for food stops, provisions, tools and parts will be important.
I understand some of the lock houses have been available to rent for lodging along the way. I don't know how that's working these days.
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Have fun - you probably have a good window to do it. Today/tonight might bring some storms along the towpath.
My wife and I did the three day version back in 2004 - tour writeup here.
I'm not a purist - if I did it today I'd pick up the WMRR paved trail around Towpath mile market 143.5 and go "ahhh" for the next 27 miles or so. When we did it, we only used it for the 10 miles from Hancock to the eastern terminus at Big Pool.
My wife and I did the three day version back in 2004 - tour writeup here.
I'm not a purist - if I did it today I'd pick up the WMRR paved trail around Towpath mile market 143.5 and go "ahhh" for the next 27 miles or so. When we did it, we only used it for the 10 miles from Hancock to the eastern terminus at Big Pool.
I’ll be riding from Cumberland to DC next weekend. Weather looks good all week, so the towpath conditions should be fine, and although a little hot, I plan on camping one night and staying in a hotel the other. Might do the GAP in the fall. This is my annual ride for the past 15 years, and it will serve as a bit of training in advance of a trip to Finland in August. My legs are definitely not as strong as usual, with the lack of regular bike commuting.
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hey jpescatore, i just finished reading your tour writeup. i enjoyed it. thks for the tip on the wmrr. i did not know about that
#44
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Halfway through the ride. In Williamsport for the night. The towpath is in good shape. There are a few mud puddles here and there, but nothing you have to ride through. It was hot today, but the humidity was OK, and I had plenty of liquids, paced myself, and stayed in the shade most of the day. Decided to get a room to take a shower and enjoy the air conditioning. It is hotter tonight than last night by about 10 degrees. I didn’t bring a sleeping bag, and actually was a little chilly at one point last night. So far a nice trip, and looking forward to tomorrow.
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Nice! You are somewhere around mile marker 100. If you are looking for a break 25 miles or so in, between mile 76 and 77 you will reach the Killiansburg cave on your left (pretty obvious, since on your right is water!) that is kind of a cool thing to see and there are a few info signs scattered around. A mile or two later on you'll see smaller caves, then reach Lock 38/Ferry Hill area which has lots of open porta-potties and many photo ops, too - but might be crowded on the 4th.
Enjoy the last day!
Enjoy the last day!
#46
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I read on https://bikecando.com that the harpers ferry foot bridge may be open. So, there could be big crowds of people around there...
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Halfway through the ride. In Williamsport for the night. The towpath is in good shape. There are a few mud puddles here and there, but nothing you have to ride through. It was hot today, but the humidity was OK, and I had plenty of liquids, paced myself, and stayed in the shade most of the day. Decided to get a room to take a shower and enjoy the air conditioning. It is hotter tonight than last night by about 10 degrees. I didn’t bring a sleeping bag, and actually was a little chilly at one point last night. So far a nice trip, and looking forward to tomorrow.
sounds great. will be leaving a week from monday. thks for the real time info. hope all continues well for you
#48
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I read on https://bikecando.com that the harpers ferry foot bridge may be open. So, there could be big crowds of people around there...
#49
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The resurfacing project is coming along nicely. I really enjoyed riding on miles and miles of smoothness. Hopefully there will be funding for the whole towpath. The original resurfaced section is holding up very well. https://www.nps.gov/choh/planyourvis...ng-project.htm
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There were many people on the canal side, but couldn’t tell for sure whether they had crossed. Far fewer than are usually there if it was open. I never cross into Harpers Ferry, so I didn’t stop to see. From the train on Thursday, the new fencing was visible, so if not yet open, it will be soon.