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12-15-18, 05:28 PM
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I have been checking at work and the specialist doesn't think we have anything in our area that would be ideal and we don't have access to the composite shop stuff. He reminded me of a friend who builds wings & bodies for drag cars. I have his number and can contact him. Whatever he recommends would probably be available to anyone. He also does lots of repairs on strange things and might be willing to do it but of course that would require shipping both ways. He works different hours than I do but I can get in contact with him if we need to.
I may take another crack at it today.
12-15-18, 05:34 PM
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thanks for keeping at it. I have not been able to get it to budge so I am wondering if there is something else keeping it on than just the glue (which shoudl not be holding very well .. which is the issue). And engineer friend recommended a possibility of heating up the joint and the epoxy- hot epoxy flows like water and should penetrate into the joint as the old epoxy also would at least partially liquify. but I rather get the thing apart so I can make sure. also now I am curious how it all fits together.
I may take another crack at it today.
I may take another crack at it today.
I decided to go Campy on the wheels. Just seemed to work.
12-15-18, 06:05 PM
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thanks for keeping at it. I have not been able to get it to budge so I am wondering if there is something else keeping it on than just the glue (which shoudl not be holding very well .. which is the issue). And engineer friend recommended a possibility of heating up the joint and the epoxy- hot epoxy flows like water and should penetrate into the joint as the old epoxy also would at least partially liquify. but I rather get the thing apart so I can make sure. also now I am curious how it all fits together.
I may take another crack at it today.
I may take another crack at it today.
Of course like you said maybe something else is holding it in place. Plus heating it up enough to pull apart may be enough to over heat and melt tubes. Its only unknown to us...so far.
12-15-18, 07:26 PM
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thanks for keeping at it. I have not been able to get it to budge so I am wondering if there is something else keeping it on than just the glue (which shoudl not be holding very well .. which is the issue). And engineer friend recommended a possibility of heating up the joint and the epoxy- hot epoxy flows like water and should penetrate into the joint as the old epoxy also would at least partially liquify. but I rather get the thing apart so I can make sure. also now I am curious how it all fits together.
I may take another crack at it today.
I may take another crack at it today.
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12-15-18, 07:39 PM
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may have to jsut go with teh super heated glue method and see if I can rebond it from outside. I think both the top and bottom need rebonding.
12-15-18, 07:48 PM
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Maybe TMar has some info or knows someone who does.
12-19-18, 02:56 PM
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I have a color combo question , It has to do with my latest build the Comp . I put a old saddle on it (Selle Supercorsa) and it was bad . I put another old saddle on it (Selle Supercorsa Profil) , not much better . So I need to step up and get a new saddle , I want to try a few but for right now I want the Selle Rolls . Selle has them for sale but only black MicroFeel (and to me it looks grey) or honey (light brown) both are about $60 . I can get a black leather Rolls for $ 120 . from the UK . Do you think the honey would look good on the Comp . (Please be honest) I can take it .
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IMG_0163 by mark westi, on Flickr
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12-19-18, 04:00 PM
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Honey would like fine. I'd match the bar tape to the seat though, that white looks out of place.
I've got an 85 IM, same color scheme as this. Currently has a brown Ideale saddle, that I originally put on it. Has also sported both black and maroon Brooks saddles, that were appropriated for other builds. They've all looked fine. Your ass is in the seat anyway, so who's going to really see the color?
There's plenty of pictures around here of gun metal Specialized Expeditions and Trek 720s with honey brown finery and they all look great.
I've got an 85 IM, same color scheme as this. Currently has a brown Ideale saddle, that I originally put on it. Has also sported both black and maroon Brooks saddles, that were appropriated for other builds. They've all looked fine. Your ass is in the seat anyway, so who's going to really see the color?
There's plenty of pictures around here of gun metal Specialized Expeditions and Trek 720s with honey brown finery and they all look great.
12-19-18, 04:14 PM
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I'm kind of liking the honey too @Vintage_Cyclist , I'm gonna go for it . And yes that tape is looking strange .
12-19-18, 07:02 PM
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I always get a chuckle out of these discussions. NTTAWWThem. I remember very early on in my tenure here, I got into a little kerfuffle with our own Mr. R. Tunes about lining up the label with the valve, a thing that absolutely MUST be done in some circles. :-)
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12-19-18, 07:09 PM
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I thought the rule is(at least with clothes) black with silver, grey and charcoal.
12-19-18, 07:51 PM
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@markwesti it doesnt matter as long as you use the "rules" you always quote, " the saddle should match the bar tape".
12-19-18, 09:04 PM
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Mmmmmmmmm.....I'd keep the white tape and go black on the saddle.
My '86 IM has a similar colorway and looks good with perforated black leather wrap and a black Fizik Arione, but I'm a big white tape fan as well.
My '86 IM has a similar colorway and looks good with perforated black leather wrap and a black Fizik Arione, but I'm a big white tape fan as well.
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12-20-18, 11:46 AM
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Ummmm... what a difference a day makes , now I'm not so sure about honey saddle and bar tape . Well if the bike was painted Ferrari red then the honey treatment would look good IMO . But yeah the bar tape is starting to bug me , to light a shade of grey , it does look white . For right now I have the good Supercorsa on the Comp . I want to compare the Comp's ride to the IM's , so same seat for the test . Good has come out of this , as I have new love (hope) for the Nishiki . I had a rock hard Supercorsa on it and it was delivering pain . Haha looks like I need a new saddle for the Nishiki and the Comp . The good Supercorsa will go back on the IM , that combo gives the best ride . And I don't want to mess with that .
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12-20-18, 12:47 PM
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Agreed @fleslider , black it is going to be , and I'm not going to re paint it . Now if I can just find the right bar tape . I did score a nice set of Cinelli bars , when I go to put those on I'll deal with the tape .
Hey rccardr , how about a picture of that Arione IM set up ? @texaspandj you know that's just me trying to be a funny jerk . But the black/black/black rule does work for me , in this case (Comp) I'm trying to make it box stock looking . At least once , then I'll screw it up .
Hey rccardr , how about a picture of that Arione IM set up ? @texaspandj you know that's just me trying to be a funny jerk . But the black/black/black rule does work for me , in this case (Comp) I'm trying to make it box stock looking . At least once , then I'll screw it up .
12-20-18, 03:51 PM
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I didn't want to say anything, (but that's so not like me).
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
12-20-18, 05:08 PM
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I didn't want to say anything, (but that's so not like me).
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
12-20-18, 06:58 PM
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I didn't want to say anything, (but that's so not like me).
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
I tried silver Cinelli carbon-style tape on a bike once, thought it would match up well (silver and black Turbo). No, it did not.
Honey likes single-tone backgrounds, like Doc's setup. Honey also likes dark colors.
The presence of silver as a second color kind of nixed the deal.
Just my opinion. If you saw how I dressed, you'd wonder why I even consider this subject.
I actually dress worse than seypat, and that is no small feat.
12-20-18, 07:29 PM
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This is a Centurion Ironman Expert. Not sure of the year. Maybe 1987?
12-20-18, 07:52 PM
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Yep. '87 frameset and a few parts. I think I just saw your bike hanging in a vintage garage.