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Old 04-22-12, 05:51 PM
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Even taking the rider out of the picture, a top quality steel bike from the mid-to-late eighties is going to give very nearly the same performance as the very latest carbon bike. The weight difference is going to be 5-7 pounds, which will make a slight difference on long and/or steep hills. And that's about it. (Ignoring, of course, the nonsense from the guy who just dropped $10,000 and is sure that his bike is "way better than anything I've ever ridden!!!")

But as an answer to "Why do you ride that old thing?", well, "Because the only difference between this bike and the latest carbon bike is weight, and that amounts to so little under real world conditions that I'm not really concerned about it" is a bit of a mouthful on the bike path. So I generally abbreviate it to "**** you".
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For me, it is simple, I can both afford and have ridden the latest, greatest techno marvels that belong to my friends with stunted appendages and the only negative thing I have to say about those gorgeously beautiful works of art is that they squeak like a little terrified mouse when you ride them anywhere but on butter pavement. And my friends all say, yes, but I was going to take it back to the shop to get rid of that noise,.... Steel is real.
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Old 04-22-12, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyLegnano
There are wonderful carbon road bikes or even high end aluminium ones that feels like a breeze in your legs. They are fast, agile, reliable and super responsive. The look manly and futuristic and you are getting cool points just by riding them. Some though, choose to ride beat up, heavy oldschool road bikes instead. Why?

Please express yourself.

I ride them because I feel like they are my adoptees. I took them almost dead and with some work & a little bit of live now they are happy and alive again. And also because each one has a history to tell
I don't think that you know anything about a good steel bike. Since yours are adoptees, I assume that they are more on the heavy crap side of the fence and not a classic italian steel frame.

But to answer your question, I have a carbon frame and an aluminum bike, and lots of steel frames. I don't ride the aluminum bike or one of the steel bikes not because of the frame but because they have straight handlebars and I don't find that comfortable for long rides. I like steel bikes because my older ones have nice lug work and I think they look really nice and different from the bikes that all the new riders are riding today.
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Nothing else feels like old, quality steel. And it looks better too.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
The one main reason steel bike are superior to other frame materials is.........steel it real.....carbon/aluminum is not......which is why high frequency road vibrations will tear cabon/aluminum apart in time.
Bovine fecal matter.
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Old 04-22-12, 07:29 PM
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Because I haven't found anything using "modern" materials that replicates the magic carpet ride of steel. I have aluminum bikes and those get theirs as well, but for just cruising, especially with slower riders in the pack, it's tough to beat the comfort that steel affords.

N+1, steel has its place.
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Originally Posted by jon c.
Nothing else feels like old, quality steel. And it looks better too.
This is a steel frame bike. So much for that idea:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikepor...7607671768898/

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Old 04-22-12, 10:44 PM
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Some bikes are junk when they're new and just further deteriorate with lack of attention. Some bikes are amazing examples of craftsmanship and engineering and with proper care and maintenaince, are still great rides 40 years later.
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Originally Posted by dynodonn
So much for the affordability part, since that is why a number of cyclists gravitate towards an older steel bike in the first place.
The question was not "why do you ride a cheap bike?" it was "why do you ride that old steel bike?"

But if economy is your goal, steel road bikes from thirty or forty years ago are sometimes of excellent quality and fairly cheap. I have a Raleigh Royal from the early eighties that has a Reynolds 531 frameset and cost me less than $150. It's a terrific bike. I also have a Giant TCR carbon road bike that cost over $2000. It too is a terrific bike. I ride the Raleigh more often that the Giant. It's a more versatile bike and just as nice to ride.
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Old 04-23-12, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cyclist2000
I don't think that you know anything about a good steel bike. Since yours are adoptees, I assume that they are more on the heavy crap side of the fence and not a classic italian steel frame.

But to answer your question, I have a carbon frame and an aluminum bike, and lots of steel frames. I don't ride the aluminum bike or one of the steel bikes not because of the frame but because they have straight handlebars and I don't find that comfortable for long rides. I like steel bikes because my older ones have nice lug work and I think they look really nice and different from the bikes that all the new riders are riding today.
I own an Italian Legnano Corsa road bike with original components (down to the bolts), a french Mercier Special Tour De France road bike with new components, an Ideal Target mountain bike/tourer with new components and a high end modern full suspension alluminium Ideal Vsr Pro. I've rolled on them for hundreds of thousands of miles all around my country (races, touring, commuting). The 3 of 4 bikes are made of steel as you may already know. The best steel available at the time. So, I may not be a frame builder but I've ridden on good steel ALL my life. So, I'm sorry but I know about good steel bikes.

And I think you've got wrong my intentions. My original post wasn't written in a literal sense, more in a poetic exaggerated way to make us all externalize our adoration for the beauty of great old bikes.

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Old 04-23-12, 05:55 AM
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Old 04-23-12, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
I ride my old steel road bike because it is fast, agile, reliable and super responsive.
It isn't heavy or beat up though and that would be my steel framed commuter which is only heavy because of all the stuff it carries.
There it is. For some reason, when people bash steel bikes, they seem to be talking about the steel bikes made in about 1955.
And if I worried whether my bike looked "manly," I'd be worried.
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Old 04-23-12, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
Bovine fecal matter.
Wrong. The world is full of 40-year-old steel bikes. You're never going to see that with carbon.
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Old 04-23-12, 09:48 AM
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I just like the compliant, comfortable ride a steel frame gives me. It's predictable.

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What do you mean, old steel bike?, it was new back when I bought it
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As a nice weather commuter my Team Miyata from 87 is just great. Fast and fun and absolutely the cheapest way to get a great ride to work.
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Originally Posted by Mobile 155
My first real road bike was a Vicount made with 4020 or 30 steel. Even back then the goal was less weight and less flex at the bottom bracket.
The Viscount frame was straight-gauge chrome-moly, and quite thin walled, which made it more flexy than high-end frames built using double-butted tubing. But it was quite a bargain in its day.

At some point steel had to mutate with the addition of alloys to get to 531, and finally to 951 with the addition of airhardening. But 951 is as far from Schwinn Varsity steel as Titanium. Steel is a long way from iron as well.
Reynolds 531 first hit the market in 1935 and dominated high end steel frames for half a century. The new alloys are not necessarily stronger than 531, but rather more amenable to modern manufacturing methods -- e.g. TIG welding and automated processes rather than low temperature hand brazing.
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Old 04-23-12, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclist2000
I don't think that you know anything about a good steel bike. Since yours are adoptees, I assume that they are more on the heavy crap side of the fence and not a classic italian steel frame.
I don't know. With a username like "MightyLegnano" I suspect he might know a thing or two about classic Italian steel frames.
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I like all bikes. I have both aluminum and steel and enjoy both. I honestly feel more secure on a steel frame only because of my size (big clyde). But I don't worry on my aluminum framed bike. I enjoy the "bouncy" ride that my steel bikes give me.
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riding my Varsity is surprisingly enjoyable.
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i am fortunate to own several bikes ranging from an "old steel" to a "carbon wonder", including a "modern steel" frame; selecting the right tool for the job analogy fits when deciding what to ride. often the old steel just feels nicer, i also like my bamboo fly rod, prefer a manual transmission in my car and still use a slide rule - all because they please me.
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Originally Posted by xenologer
Durability, utility.
+1 oh and cost
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
What do you mean, old steel bike?, it was new back when I bought it
+1 :-)
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