A vaccine to the market?
10-06-20, 09:19 AM
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The best vaccine is injecting a little bleach. Hey. It works for the leader of the free world...
10-06-20, 10:14 AM
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The "Trump has it" thread should without question be unlocked. That front and center story is far from being closed, and of course has implications as large as any other for millions of people, vaccine or not.
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10-06-20, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Miles2go
The "Trump has it" thread should without question be unlocked. That front and center story is far from being closed, and of course has implications as large as any other for millions of people, vaccine or not.
10-06-20, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by noisebeam
The mods want anything political or rather with political tones discussed in P&R.
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10-06-20, 11:11 AM
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This thread is going to be an "interesting look back" item one day down the road...
It started w/ 79pmooney posting up about Novavax on July 07. Take a look at their subsequent stock price history:
7/06/20: 79.44
7/07/20: 104.56
8/10/20: 178.51
9/10/20: 92.86
yesterday: 110.17 ... yes, these are the guys to whom the taxpayers handed 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS. yeah, a billion. one company, here's a billion - no, make it 1.6 - yes, take it.
Hope is not a strategy (actually, she's a superspreader at 1600 PA Ave).
It started w/ 79pmooney posting up about Novavax on July 07. Take a look at their subsequent stock price history:
7/06/20: 79.44
7/07/20: 104.56
8/10/20: 178.51
9/10/20: 92.86
yesterday: 110.17 ... yes, these are the guys to whom the taxpayers handed 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS. yeah, a billion. one company, here's a billion - no, make it 1.6 - yes, take it.
Hope is not a strategy (actually, she's a superspreader at 1600 PA Ave).
10-06-20, 01:42 PM
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^^^^ sometimes NO HOPE is HOPE 
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Potential COVID-19 vaccines should NOT be affected by mutations to the coronavirus because different strains respond to treatment in the same way, study claims
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...udy-finds.htmlhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-020-00246-8
10-08-20, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes
This thread is going to be an "interesting look back" item one day down the road...
It started w/ 79pmooney posting up about Novavax on July 07. Take a look at their subsequent stock price history:
7/06/20: 79.44
7/07/20: 104.56
8/10/20: 178.51
9/10/20: 92.86
yesterday: 110.17 ... yes, these are the guys to whom the taxpayers handed 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS. yeah, a billion. one company, here's a billion - no, make it 1.6 - yes, take it.
Hope is not a strategy (actually, she's a superspreader at 1600 PA Ave).
It started w/ 79pmooney posting up about Novavax on July 07. Take a look at their subsequent stock price history:
7/06/20: 79.44
7/07/20: 104.56
8/10/20: 178.51
9/10/20: 92.86
yesterday: 110.17 ... yes, these are the guys to whom the taxpayers handed 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS. yeah, a billion. one company, here's a billion - no, make it 1.6 - yes, take it.
Hope is not a strategy (actually, she's a superspreader at 1600 PA Ave).
Putting that $1.6B number in perspective ... it is less than 1/10,000th of the US economy ($21.44 trillion dollars).
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10-08-20, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Biker395
Putting that $1.6B number in perspective ... it is less than 1/10,000th of the US economy ($21.44 trillion dollars).
10-08-20, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes
I hear what you're saying ... small relative to... but we're talking govt expenditures, not the whole GDP, nonetheless your point stands. Still a lot of money to hand over to one company, and you have to question the insider stock activity, these guys are taking home a lot of cash, exercising stock options granted at single digit prices. Example: Pres of R&D exercised 25k share options priced at $5.95, then sold almost 45k shares at over $106 market. At least we could say "that's bad optics for a company that has not made a profit in the last ELEVEN years." (SEC Form 4 filings).
Apparently, there are now 7 vaccines with development being paid for by the US?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/5575206002/
I have no idea which or any of the vaccines under development will succeed (if any), just as the military doesn't know that any of the cost-plus contracts will pan out to a weapon that will work. That doesn't mean that paying for the development is a bad risk, or that the money was wasted. But if the money is just used to line the pockets of the companies involved ... yea ... jail time is in order.
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10-13-20, 12:15 AM
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Johnson & Johnson pauses COVID-19 vaccine study over participant illness
https://nypost.com/2020/10/12/johnso...ipant-illness/
10-16-20, 12:52 PM
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Coronavirus update: Pfizer seeks vaccine authorization in November
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...135756615.html
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...135756615.html
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Originally Posted by Biker395
Coronavirus update: Pfizer seeks vaccine authorization in November
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...135756615.html
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...135756615.html
As Pfizer is blinded to who received the vaccine versus the placebo, a committee of independent scientists will review the complete data and they will inform us if the vaccine is effective or not based on predetermined criteria at key interim analysis points throughout the trial.
Still, positive news, lets keep our fingers crossed.
Pfizer letter
10-16-20, 02:13 PM
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Thanks for the context. 
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In China there is a large demand for an unapproved vaccine that is still in trials.
I wonder if a significant portion of the Chinese public are anti-vaxers like in North America? Somehow I doubt it
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10...emand-in-china
The eastern Chinese city of Yiwu has stopped the sale of a coronavirus vaccine after dozens of people demanded to be inoculated over the weekend, underlining the popularity of the treatment that has not even completed late-stage clinical trials.
Hundreds of people in Yiwu stood in line for a coronavirus vaccine after the government opened up bookings to the general public, the BBC reported on Sunday. The local government had said on Friday it would allow people to be vaccinated on an “emergency use” basis, a day after the neighboring city of Jiaxing announced the same.
Hundreds of people in Yiwu stood in line for a coronavirus vaccine after the government opened up bookings to the general public, the BBC reported on Sunday. The local government had said on Friday it would allow people to be vaccinated on an “emergency use” basis, a day after the neighboring city of Jiaxing announced the same.
The high demand for the vaccine in China highlights the potential shortfall that local governments could face once a treatment is approved. Unlike in the United States — where a growing number of polls have found that many people would not get a coronavirus vaccine in part because they feel the Trump administration is pushing for its approval before fully weighing the safety and efficacy data — many people in China are flocking to get one.
China has indicated it would expand the number of “emergency users” for a vaccination program, saying it plans to target people at higher risk of being exposed to the virus such as travelers and health care workers. Tens of thousands of people have already been vaccinated, including government officials and executives of vaccine companies.
China has indicated it would expand the number of “emergency users” for a vaccination program, saying it plans to target people at higher risk of being exposed to the virus such as travelers and health care workers. Tens of thousands of people have already been vaccinated, including government officials and executives of vaccine companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10...emand-in-china
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Originally Posted by jon c.
I suspect anti-vaxers would be much less vocal about their beliefs in that culture.
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Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine could get emergency approval in December
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/modern...y-by-december/
10-21-20, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CycleryNorth81
Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine could get emergency approval in December
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/modern...y-by-december/
Moderna will analyze how well the vaccine is working when 53 people in its Phase 3 study develop symptomatic cases of COVID-19, the Journal reported. That analysis is expected to take place in November, though the exact timing is tough to predict “because it depends on the cases, the number of people getting sick,” Bancel said.
However, it’s possible that the vaccine won’t be deemed effective enough when the initial data is analyzed next month, the paper reported. Moderna would then reportedly conduct a second analysis when 106 people get sick with the coronavirus.
10-21-20, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by skookum
This is the same situation as Pfizer's vaccine. The timeline is set by the fact that they have to have at least 60 days since the last dose before they can apply for emergency use. They are hoping that will have efficacy data by then. The article says that they need to have 53 symptomatic infections in the placebo arm.
If it isn't clear cut they will wait until they have 106 cases.
If it isn't clear cut they will wait until they have 106 cases.
10-21-20, 09:07 AM
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Healthy volunteers look set to be infected with Covid as part of new U.K. 'challenge trial'
https://news.yahoo.com/healthy-volun...063036273.html
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Giving healthy people an unpredictable virus we've only been studying for 9 months? Ethically dubious at best.
10-23-20, 02:56 PM
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Distribution obstacles.
US faces major hurdles for COVID-19 vaccine distribution: Vaccine advisory committee
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-fa...205158048.html
10-27-20, 09:45 PM
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Dr Fauci warns that early COVID-19 vaccines will only prevent symptoms from arising - not block infection
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...infection.html
10-28-20, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blacknbluebikes
Giving healthy people an unpredictable virus we've only been studying for 9 months? Ethically dubious at best.
Nobody is being given " an unpredictable virus." Not sure what you mean by this, but no vaccine program involves injecting people with Covid-19. Basically, the vaccines are viruses that produce the CV-19 protein or cause your cells to produce that protein. The theory is that the immune system will develop antibodies that attack that protein. The protein is not the part of the COVID-19 virus that causes the harm. .
