I'm worse than a woman at Nordstoms...here is my new bike
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I'm worse than my wife at Nordstoms...here is my new bike
Should I keep it, should I take it back**********
As you remember in another thread I wrote on taking my R800 back to the LBS because the geometry of the bike was killing my back...after some comfort and consultation from my LBS (Cyclo Path in Fresno...Great Great Bike store btw) I have returned home with the bike and have the new pics to show all of it.
We changed to a Serfas Cosmos saddle (for my *ss comfort) and installed a Look Ergostem to give me some more rise (I told Rich and Mike - at the LBS - this is like Viagra for bikes!) and I ditched the 545's for 515's.
So far so good and feels a lot better with the seat and new stem. Now I can ride like the wind! Oh yeah, I decided to keep the Trek for those day's when I feel like riding different. Gosh, 2 bikes??? I think I like this cycling stuff!
-Wynn
As you remember in another thread I wrote on taking my R800 back to the LBS because the geometry of the bike was killing my back...after some comfort and consultation from my LBS (Cyclo Path in Fresno...Great Great Bike store btw) I have returned home with the bike and have the new pics to show all of it.
We changed to a Serfas Cosmos saddle (for my *ss comfort) and installed a Look Ergostem to give me some more rise (I told Rich and Mike - at the LBS - this is like Viagra for bikes!) and I ditched the 545's for 515's.
So far so good and feels a lot better with the seat and new stem. Now I can ride like the wind! Oh yeah, I decided to keep the Trek for those day's when I feel like riding different. Gosh, 2 bikes??? I think I like this cycling stuff!
-Wynn
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If you ask me, I think the frame is way too small for you. The seatpost on traditional frames usually only show up a little bit (about an inch or two). Also I think it's dangerous to ride fast with the stem raised like that.
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i'd be a bit more careful about how i title my threads; there are lots of women reading these forums.
i'm not sure what women are supposed to behave like at nordstrom's, but it doesn't look like a constructive statement, figure of speech or otherwise.
my $0.02
i'm not sure what women are supposed to behave like at nordstrom's, but it doesn't look like a constructive statement, figure of speech or otherwise.
my $0.02
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I was referring to my wife who bows to the Half Yearly Sale and can't decide what to do with her purchases....there was no malitious intent against woman, men, children or pets intended in the title of the thread.
Sorry for the inconvience.
Sorry for the inconvience.
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I have never, ever seen a stem that goes virtually straight up like that. It kind of defeat's the whole purpose of being on a road bike. But, if it works for you...
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No, dude, No. I am fairly new to this whole road biking deal, but I have that same bike and your version just looks un-safe. The bars are soooo high! Can't you just get your back stretched out or get used to it or something? On my stock headset when I grab the top bar, I am not even hunched over very much. I know eveybody's style and comfort is different, but that just ain't right.
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With the Look Ergostem, Wynn can adjust the handlebars further down as he gains more experience on the bike. Until then, do what fits you and makes you most comfortable on the bike, nothing is more important.
I agree with a few of the above comments, overall, the bike sounds a bit small for you. Did the bike shop fit the bike to you, or you to the bike?
I agree with a few of the above comments, overall, the bike sounds a bit small for you. Did the bike shop fit the bike to you, or you to the bike?
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sorry i can't help it...
This is by far the most interesting stem I have ever seen.. What is the stem angle again?
This is by far the most interesting stem I have ever seen.. What is the stem angle again?
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Wow it looks like I've started an interesting thread here....
I am interested to know
Why you think the frame looks to small for me
Why is it unsafe to have the bars up so high
What is wrong with the seat post being the way it is
I've gotten great information from you guy's on this forum and I don't want to ride something that might be unsafe.....
I've had the Trek 7500 for about three months now, by the way.
Thanks
Wynn
I am interested to know
Why you think the frame looks to small for me
Why is it unsafe to have the bars up so high
What is wrong with the seat post being the way it is
I've gotten great information from you guy's on this forum and I don't want to ride something that might be unsafe.....
I've had the Trek 7500 for about three months now, by the way.
Thanks
Wynn
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As long as you fit fine on it, no need to worry about how other people think it looks to them...
The handle bar, on sport, racing, touring and so on bikes, is usually below the seat, or at least on the same level, yours is even a little higher, that really looks unusual, but if you feel good, then nothing to worry about.
To me, it seems as that position is upright, for something like comfort bike...
The handle bar, on sport, racing, touring and so on bikes, is usually below the seat, or at least on the same level, yours is even a little higher, that really looks unusual, but if you feel good, then nothing to worry about.
To me, it seems as that position is upright, for something like comfort bike...
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I'm guessing that you are not used to riding a road bike compared to your Trek 7500...and depending on your flexibilty you may never get as flat as other roadies. But hey whatever works for you. If they measured you correctly at your LBS the frame size should be correct. The extension of your seatpost may be a bit high - you may have been able to ride a frame one or two sizes up, but even then it shouldn't affect the amount of rise of the stem by as much as you have it with the Look stem. Personally, the extension of your seatpost looks fine.
As you ride more with the c'dale you'll be able to gradually lower the stem rise. But don't expect it to ride like the Trek. They are 2 completely different bikes.
As you ride more with the c'dale you'll be able to gradually lower the stem rise. But don't expect it to ride like the Trek. They are 2 completely different bikes.
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Originally posted by talkdj
Why is it unsafe to have the bars up so high
What is wrong with the seat post being the way it is
I've gotten great information from you guy's on this forum and I don't want to ride something that might be unsafe.....
I've had the Trek 7500 for about three months now, by the way.
Thanks
Wynn
Why is it unsafe to have the bars up so high
What is wrong with the seat post being the way it is
I've gotten great information from you guy's on this forum and I don't want to ride something that might be unsafe.....
I've had the Trek 7500 for about three months now, by the way.
Thanks
Wynn
IMHO,
Because you raise the stem up 90 degree, your stem length (the distance from head-tube to handle bar) is virtually closer to 0. The shorter the stem, the twitchier the steering. You could loose control of the bike on high speed.
By going up in size, you'll get a taller head-tube so you don't need to raise the stem that high to achieve the same level of comfort. The only way to know for sure is to try it.
About the seat post: I think some people intentionally go with a smaller frame so that they can sit way higher than the handle bar, to achieve better aerodynamic position.
Last edited by firebolt; 06-04-03 at 12:54 AM.
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What a beauty! I'm ready to trade in my 1985 32 pound Ross!
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As Joe said the Look ErgoStem is fully adjustable thru a wide range of positions both for height and reach. They're expensive but nothing else has that kind of versatility. Hopefully your LBS set the bike up with enough cable slack so that you can use some of that adjustability.
I see Firebolt's point about what is essentially shorter reach than actual bar height but unless you're doing some scorching descents don't think it's a factor. I'd recommend slowly getting that bar a little lower and a little farther out in front of you. Take your time but make use of that adjustable and very expensive stem. I ride my bars just a tad lower than my seat. I can usually get there with a normal quill stem but on my Colnago had to use a Nitto Technomic (reaaally looonng quill).
I see Firebolt's point about what is essentially shorter reach than actual bar height but unless you're doing some scorching descents don't think it's a factor. I'd recommend slowly getting that bar a little lower and a little farther out in front of you. Take your time but make use of that adjustable and very expensive stem. I ride my bars just a tad lower than my seat. I can usually get there with a normal quill stem but on my Colnago had to use a Nitto Technomic (reaaally looonng quill).
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why not justput road wheels on your MTB if thats the only position you're comforatble in? Would have saved a lot of money and had discs to show for it.
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Originally posted by firebolt
IMHO,
Because you raise the stem up 90 degree, your stem length (the distance from head-tube to handle bar) is virtually closer to 0. The shorter the stem, the twitchier the steering. You could loose control of the bike on high speed.
By going up in size, you'll get a taller head-tube so you don't need to raise the stem that high to achieve the same level of comfort. The only way to know for sure is to try it.
About the seat post: I think some people intentionally go with a smaller frame so that they can sit way higher than the handle bar, to achieve better aerodynamic position.
IMHO,
Because you raise the stem up 90 degree, your stem length (the distance from head-tube to handle bar) is virtually closer to 0. The shorter the stem, the twitchier the steering. You could loose control of the bike on high speed.
By going up in size, you'll get a taller head-tube so you don't need to raise the stem that high to achieve the same level of comfort. The only way to know for sure is to try it.
About the seat post: I think some people intentionally go with a smaller frame so that they can sit way higher than the handle bar, to achieve better aerodynamic position.
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Originally posted by William Karsten
Then how do you explain Giants small frame style for big riders?
Then how do you explain Giants small frame style for big riders?
Mine
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I'm a total hybrid riding noob at the moment but everything I've read lurking here seems to tell me that FIT is the most important thing when it comes to riding a bike. Seems like if you need to do that much jerry-rigging of the stem you might be able to find a bike with a better fit or more suitable/upright geometry the this one.
That is what I would be considering if I were in your position.
But once again I'm a noob. Most of the people here probably know better then I.
Good Luck
That is what I would be considering if I were in your position.
But once again I'm a noob. Most of the people here probably know better then I.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by Joe Gardner
With the Look Ergostem, Wynn can adjust the handlebars further down as he gains more experience on the bike. Until then, do what fits you and makes you most comfortable on the bike, nothing is more important.
With the Look Ergostem, Wynn can adjust the handlebars further down as he gains more experience on the bike. Until then, do what fits you and makes you most comfortable on the bike, nothing is more important.
Originally posted by Joe Gardner
I agree with a few of the above comments, overall, the bike sounds a bit small for you. Did the bike shop fit the bike to you, or you to the bike?
I agree with a few of the above comments, overall, the bike sounds a bit small for you. Did the bike shop fit the bike to you, or you to the bike?
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