Help choosing a bike for almost 6 yr old
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Help choosing a bike for almost 6 yr old
I'm having the hardest time deciding off of information on the web. The bike stores around here will only have 1 bike in this size and thus they try to sell me that. I'd be happy to buy from a bike store, and spend up to around $300 (we have a younger one who will use the bike eventually) for a lighter weight bike but how do you choose based on reviews online? No training wheels necessary, 21 inch inseem. So a 20 inch bike, or if we get bmx maybe 16 inch.
My husband turned down RoyalBaby due to that name being printed all over the bike. My husband wants one that has pegs and will do tricks, however the BMX bikes that I see cost more than our budget and I believe would be uncomfortable for most of the riding which will be just around the neighborhood or on park trails.
I'm not good with his choice of a Mongoose because it seems too heavy at over 30 lbs.
I've read the recommendation to choose a manufacturer that only makes kids bikes because they get the geometry correct and others don't usually. Is that true?
My husband turned down RoyalBaby due to that name being printed all over the bike. My husband wants one that has pegs and will do tricks, however the BMX bikes that I see cost more than our budget and I believe would be uncomfortable for most of the riding which will be just around the neighborhood or on park trails.
I'm not good with his choice of a Mongoose because it seems too heavy at over 30 lbs.
I've read the recommendation to choose a manufacturer that only makes kids bikes because they get the geometry correct and others don't usually. Is that true?
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I’d probably stick to 20” wheels, because kids grow so fast and the 16” bikes are really shrimpy, and even if it fits the 6 year old kid right now, it probably won’t when they’re 7. Also, 16” wheeled bikes seem to be plentiful secondhand, at least around here, and are always in good shape, so they’re cheaper and easier to acquire than a good 20”.
I share your concern about bike weight, because I want the kids to have fun riding, which means they need to be comfortable handling the bike when not riding it, and I assume they’ll struggle a little less on climbs with a lighter bike, too. I don’t worry too much about it, though, because whether the bike is 20lbs or 30lbs, as a percentage of their body weight, they’re pushing around a bike which in adult scale would be off the charts heavy!
As for geometry and brands, I dunno…I’ve never had a kid-only brand, so I’m unfamiliar. I’ve had Liv, Scott, and Giant for the kids, but my favorite has been the REI house brand, Co Op. They’re simple, no frills designs which keep weight down, but offfer a good feature set. My 9 year old is on his third year with a Co Op Rev | Cty (or somesuch) a multi-speed, 24” wheeled, disc brake equipped bike. I did have to swap the stem this year for more length and rise, but otherwise it fits him pretty well. It’s an MTB style bike— I wanted him to have and learn to use gearing— but they have single-speed BMX, too, and I think REI ships, so those may be worth checking out.
I see Woom bikes around town quite a bit, which are a kid-specific brand, and they look pretty nice, but I’ve not investigated them closely, The big thing to my eye was the absence of a heavy, cheap, suspension fork, which is good.
If your husband wants to teach the kid stunt riding, well, a heavy BMX with pegs is probably the way to go. The good news is that your child will probably love riding regardless the bike type, so don’t sweat it too hard.
I share your concern about bike weight, because I want the kids to have fun riding, which means they need to be comfortable handling the bike when not riding it, and I assume they’ll struggle a little less on climbs with a lighter bike, too. I don’t worry too much about it, though, because whether the bike is 20lbs or 30lbs, as a percentage of their body weight, they’re pushing around a bike which in adult scale would be off the charts heavy!
As for geometry and brands, I dunno…I’ve never had a kid-only brand, so I’m unfamiliar. I’ve had Liv, Scott, and Giant for the kids, but my favorite has been the REI house brand, Co Op. They’re simple, no frills designs which keep weight down, but offfer a good feature set. My 9 year old is on his third year with a Co Op Rev | Cty (or somesuch) a multi-speed, 24” wheeled, disc brake equipped bike. I did have to swap the stem this year for more length and rise, but otherwise it fits him pretty well. It’s an MTB style bike— I wanted him to have and learn to use gearing— but they have single-speed BMX, too, and I think REI ships, so those may be worth checking out.
I see Woom bikes around town quite a bit, which are a kid-specific brand, and they look pretty nice, but I’ve not investigated them closely, The big thing to my eye was the absence of a heavy, cheap, suspension fork, which is good.
If your husband wants to teach the kid stunt riding, well, a heavy BMX with pegs is probably the way to go. The good news is that your child will probably love riding regardless the bike type, so don’t sweat it too hard.
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I bought all my kids big-box store bikes at that age. My kids were never into riding very far when they were that little so just needed something to ride around the neighborhood or to the park for a season or two until they grew out of it. Pretty sure I spent well under a hundred dollars and it was totally fine. I did buy them nicer bikes as they got older.
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When my kids were around that age (actually they were 5), bought them both 20" wheeled Specialized BMX bikes from a bike shop. Lasted them 3-4 years before they outgrew them, worked great. Once they were done, we gifted the bikes to friends in search of same bikes for their small kids.
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You may have been looking for the Raleigh Lily 20!
That's what we have, anyways, and my daughter loves it. She is 7 and has had it for over a year. It's light at 22lbs, $290, 20" standover height, 6-speed, hand front and rear breaks, great components, great reviews, a little aggressive (lean-over riding position). To reduce the aggressiveness slightly, I replaced the longer handlebar riser with this $12 part from Amazon: Bavel Aluminum Alloy Fixed 31.8mm Cycling Mountain Bike Short Handlebar Stem Riser.
I landed a barely used bike second hand. No regrets.
Good luck.
That's what we have, anyways, and my daughter loves it. She is 7 and has had it for over a year. It's light at 22lbs, $290, 20" standover height, 6-speed, hand front and rear breaks, great components, great reviews, a little aggressive (lean-over riding position). To reduce the aggressiveness slightly, I replaced the longer handlebar riser with this $12 part from Amazon: Bavel Aluminum Alloy Fixed 31.8mm Cycling Mountain Bike Short Handlebar Stem Riser.
I landed a barely used bike second hand. No regrets.
Good luck.
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Really depends on how much you'll actually ride with the kid and take them on adventures.
If the kid is only riding around the block find a nice used 20" bike on marketplace or craigslist and have it looked over. Don't waste the money on department store, I know all the stories of people who's kids survived on them, I also have witnessed just how bad they really are when people bring them in for repair, they really aren't safe. Pegs on a cheap mongoose are just silly trinkets and an easy way for his friends to break the bike by riding on them with the cheap, thin axle the bike will come with, they're also something extra to hurt themselves on when they crash. If dad is going to show how to legitimately use them the bike will still be 30lbs but will be built heavy duty to use them without failing.
If you're going to ride lots with them, get a decent one. One of the biggest issues is that companies put poor crank lengths on their bikes. The Cannondale trail singlespeed has a 120mm crank, this is the longest a 20" bike should really have, the c-dale trail 20 which is 7sp has 110mm cranks which is better. Giant and Specialized I think in the last two years has moved to putting shorter cranks on to match these, the last time I looked at a trek is was 152mm, which is too long. Although they are more than a department store bike at 330.00 and 450.00 suggested pricing, my kids on decent kids mountain bikes have learned to ride all the local trails. My 6yo over the last year has ridden all the beginner and intermediate trails at 10 different mtb areas near us. He's wanting to ride more and this year will move into the advanced trails. A big part of it is that I love to MTB and the wife does as well, so the kids get brought along about 2x a week in the afternoon or weekends. I wouldn't do it with a walmart bike.
If the kid is only riding around the block find a nice used 20" bike on marketplace or craigslist and have it looked over. Don't waste the money on department store, I know all the stories of people who's kids survived on them, I also have witnessed just how bad they really are when people bring them in for repair, they really aren't safe. Pegs on a cheap mongoose are just silly trinkets and an easy way for his friends to break the bike by riding on them with the cheap, thin axle the bike will come with, they're also something extra to hurt themselves on when they crash. If dad is going to show how to legitimately use them the bike will still be 30lbs but will be built heavy duty to use them without failing.
If you're going to ride lots with them, get a decent one. One of the biggest issues is that companies put poor crank lengths on their bikes. The Cannondale trail singlespeed has a 120mm crank, this is the longest a 20" bike should really have, the c-dale trail 20 which is 7sp has 110mm cranks which is better. Giant and Specialized I think in the last two years has moved to putting shorter cranks on to match these, the last time I looked at a trek is was 152mm, which is too long. Although they are more than a department store bike at 330.00 and 450.00 suggested pricing, my kids on decent kids mountain bikes have learned to ride all the local trails. My 6yo over the last year has ridden all the beginner and intermediate trails at 10 different mtb areas near us. He's wanting to ride more and this year will move into the advanced trails. A big part of it is that I love to MTB and the wife does as well, so the kids get brought along about 2x a week in the afternoon or weekends. I wouldn't do it with a walmart bike.
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I've bought Woom bikes for my two grandsons. Quality is great, they are light, and I like the features. They are pricey; at least the bigger bike can be a hand-me-down.
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I'm having the hardest time deciding off of information on the web. The bike stores around here will only have 1 bike in this size and thus they try to sell me that. I'd be happy to buy from a bike store, and spend up to around $300 (we have a younger one who will use the bike eventually) for a lighter weight bike but how do you choose based on reviews online? No training wheels necessary, 21 inch inseem. So a 20 inch bike, or if we get bmx maybe 16 inch.
My husband turned down RoyalBaby due to that name being printed all over the bike. My husband wants one that has pegs and will do tricks, however the BMX bikes that I see cost more than our budget and I believe would be uncomfortable for most of the riding which will be just around the neighborhood or on park trails.
I'm not good with his choice of a Mongoose because it seems too heavy at over 30 lbs.
I've read the recommendation to choose a manufacturer that only makes kids bikes because they get the geometry correct and others don't usually. Is that true?
My husband turned down RoyalBaby due to that name being printed all over the bike. My husband wants one that has pegs and will do tricks, however the BMX bikes that I see cost more than our budget and I believe would be uncomfortable for most of the riding which will be just around the neighborhood or on park trails.
I'm not good with his choice of a Mongoose because it seems too heavy at over 30 lbs.
I've read the recommendation to choose a manufacturer that only makes kids bikes because they get the geometry correct and others don't usually. Is that true?
Weight actually is fairly important - because the kids need to be able to lift the bikes. I bought my kids 24" Hotrock Street bikes at least a year before they were ready - but my oldest started riding it right away because it was lighter than his 20" (which was a cheaper bike-shop bike). The Cannondale 20" are really good at that size.
As far as BMX - Mongoose were really cool when we were kids, but their absolute best bike is very much entry level now. A really good BMX in that size will be closer to 10lbs than 30. If you've a BMX race track nearby - it's a great sport for little riders.
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I have a 7-year-old who's been riding a used Islabikes Beinn 20 (small; they also make a 20 large). Great bike, worth looking for, but only available used and hard to find in the US. One of his friends rides a Cannondale Quick 20 which seems comparable and is more likely available at a local bike shop. A lot of the 20"-wheel bikes have shocks; unless you're planning some serious mountain biking, I'd skip those since they add weight and provide little benefit for a kid who doesn't weigh much. I do recommend a bike with gears - 7 speeds has greatly increased how far my son can ride and how steep a hill he's willing to tackle. If you live somewhere flat (we don't) that might be less of an issue.
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fwiw - my kids went thru so many bikes over the years until they reached adult size, with only 2 exceptions (classic red trike for Son & small pink Barbie 2wheeler w/ training wheels for Daughter. she taped bar streamers on, all by herself), all bikes were pre-owned, including what they wound up with when they stopped growing. if they want new, they can buy it themselves. if hubby wants to buy an expensive bike, let him cough up the change, every other year. btw - if the kids are just riding around the neighborhood, like most kids, & not doing tricks, the kid doesn't need a bmx bike w/ pegs. I have to wonder about kids I see, in my area, who have clearly outgrown their bmx bikes, but continue to ride them, 1/2 standing & 1/2 coasting, because the bike is impropriate for what they are doing w/ it
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I second Woom bikes (if you are in the US). They are well made, lightweight, proportioned correctly for kids and have phenomenally good resale value. My kids had the Woom 5's and it was a great bike. I sold them each for ~$50 less than what I bought them new for, and they both sold within a few days.
Before I discovered Woom I bought a succession of Specialized HotRock bikes for them- 12" wheels, 16", 20" . These are decent bikes that are easy to find used on CL. But I did have to do a bunch of work to lighten them and make them more useable. These Hotrock bikes had four shortcomings: too heavy, geared too high, reach too far and crank lengths too long. After I swap out the tires, stem, handlebars, crankset, chain ring and cut off the kick stand mounts, I manage to make them light and kid friendly. Luckily you can still find a lot of BMX parts to customize and lighten these Hotrocks to your liking.
But if you just want something that works out of the box, Woom is it.
Before I discovered Woom I bought a succession of Specialized HotRock bikes for them- 12" wheels, 16", 20" . These are decent bikes that are easy to find used on CL. But I did have to do a bunch of work to lighten them and make them more useable. These Hotrock bikes had four shortcomings: too heavy, geared too high, reach too far and crank lengths too long. After I swap out the tires, stem, handlebars, crankset, chain ring and cut off the kick stand mounts, I manage to make them light and kid friendly. Luckily you can still find a lot of BMX parts to customize and lighten these Hotrocks to your liking.
But if you just want something that works out of the box, Woom is it.