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Old 08-28-22, 07:16 AM
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700c Wheel builder retailers?

What [as in websites that sell] are some reputable wheel retailers/builders?
Looking for reasonable options regarding rear wheel assemblies that are 32 hole 6 bolt disc, carbon fiber 11-speed 21mm width & a hard requirement for a quiet freehub.
I wouldn't be opposed to buying the rim, hub, & spokes to build it myself IF it is cost effective.
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Prowheelbuilder.com

Based in GA, has a ton of combinations depending on which rim, hub, spokes, and nips you want to use.
Handbuilt and they can either recommend something if you are overwhelmed or you can choose their in-house option.
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Find a good local shop that builds wheels.

Unrelated suggestion: most good hubs are center lock; get that, and use six-bolt adapters which are cheap and light. Then when you need new rotors, buy centerlocks.

Another thing: 32h cf rims will be tough to find. You may need to accept a lower spoke count.
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Just buy any wheelset that meets your criteria and is as inexpensive as you can find. Then after riding on them for 200-300 miles take them to a bike shop with a good wheel person and let them go through them.

I'm not suggesting you go with no-name or very low end hubs and rims though.
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Not many quiet freehubs out there these days, but might want to take a look at Campagnolo and Shimano wheels. I don’t know how many of their hubs come standalone, but by reputation, those two are pretty quiet. I can attest that my Campy Zonda is nearly silent at-speed.
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Light bicycle will build you a wheel with an Onyx Vesper hub.

I imagine that the others mentioned here will do the same.

The Vesper is available in both QR/135 and TA 142 with either 6 bolt or splines for the disk. They are available in 24, 28, and 32 spoke versions.

Get ready to pay a lot for the pleasure of a silent hub, and they are fairly heavy for a premium hub.

Or you can buy the hub directly from Onyx Racing Products. https://onyxrp.com/
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Originally Posted by DangerousDanR View Post

Get ready to pay a lot for the pleasure of a silent hub, and they are fairly heavy for a premium hub.

Or you can buy the hub directly from Onyx Racing Products. https://onyxrp.com/
But is a hub 'rotating mass'?
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Originally Posted by DangerousDanR View Post
Light bicycle will build you a wheel with an Onyx Vesper hub.

I imagine that the others mentioned here will do the same.

The Vesper is available in both QR/135 and TA 142 with either 6 bolt or splines for the disk. They are available in 24, 28, and 32 spoke versions.

Get ready to pay a lot for the pleasure of a silent hub, and they are fairly heavy for a premium hub.

Or you can buy the hub directly from Onyx Racing Products. https://onyxrp.com/
thanks! that is what I was trying to recall, but just couldn't think of it.

I'm thinking the Onyx Vesper MTB HG-11SPD 142/12 Thru-bolt Rear Hub is the least noisiest hub, then shimano is next in line.
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Joe at Joe Young Wheels
Eric at Ergott Wheels
Rob at Psimet (already mentioned above)
Pete at Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Troy at Ligero Wheelworks
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Sugar Wheel Works is great https://sugarwheelworks.com/

If you want quiet hubs Shimano hubs use cup and cone which is comparatively pretty quiet. Also, if you run dt swiss with the 18 tooth ratchet and use their grease it's quiet.
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Get a set of wheels from Velomine in Springfield Illinois. They are on ebay but just go direct to website it is cheaper that way. They have all kinds of wheels and some not the fanciest or lightest but very good. I have a set of H and Son Arctypes with Shimano Ultegra Hubs I bought 3 years ago. They have close to 30,000 miles on them and I never have really touch them as such. When I bought them new I make a couple of nipple turns to get things in order but otherwise they are great. I also like Shimano Hubs they are completely silent free hubs a real joy.
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I just got these and they are whisper-quiet...

https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/co...eelset-review/
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Eric didn't respond to any o' my messages (years ago), however, still hearing good things...
There are good builders in my community, however, I found some "bad" ones, then bought a wrench, stand, gauge, and took my time rebuilding my wheels (T11 hubs, C2 rims, race drive side, cxray other side and front), done. Still true, still rollin'.

That said, The Reason I'd logged in today, see NYTimes article on Central Park races, "The Raccoons of Central Park Move in Packs and Go Fast. On Bikes" where a pic clearly promotes Psimet wheels
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Camie Kornely does/did have a sponsorship of some sort with PSIMET. Wore their logo too.
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I just got these and they are whisper-quiet...

https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/co...eelset-review/
Remember our discussion re: our FFWD F4R wheels? After going deaf riding those wheels, almost any other wheels are quiet by comparison.
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Psimet2001 is knowledgeable as heck and I would have bought his wheels, but I was (and still am) strangely fixated on having wheels with straight pull spokes. I cannot explain why.
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Psimet2001 is knowledgeable as heck and I would have bought his wheels, but I was (and still am) strangely fixated on having wheels with straight pull spokes. I cannot explain why.
do they offer only a rear assembly? If so, do they price it to be reasonable & not like most do by charging 2/3 of the cost for a set?
how do I get in touch with them? Website?
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do they offer only a rear assembly? If so, do they price it to be reasonable & not like most do by charging 2/3 of the cost for a set?
how do I get in touch with them? Website?
I don't know much about Psimet's (or any other wheel builders') pricing for a standalone rear wheel, since I always shop for a wheelset, but disagree with the premise of your question, i.e., that it is somehow unreasonable to price a standalone rear wheel at 2/3 the price of the corresponding wheelset.

Even if both wheels are built using the exact same rim, the freehub of the rear wheel is much more expensive, and the rear wheel has more spokes and require different types and lengths, plus the costs to pack and ship one wheel is not much less than that for a wheelset. So 2/3 for a rear wheel seems eminently reasonable ... and you might as well buy the whole wheelset.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir View Post
I don't know much about Psimet's (or any other wheel builders') pricing for a standalone rear wheel, since I always shop for a wheelset, but disagree with the premise of your question, i.e., that it is somehow unreasonable to price a standalone rear wheel at 2/3 the price of the corresponding wheelset.

Even if both wheels are built using the exact same rim, the freehub of the rear wheel is much more expensive, and the rear wheel has more spokes and require different types and lengths, plus the costs to pack and ship one wheel is not much less than that for a wheelset. So 2/3 for a rear wheel seems eminently reasonable ... and you might as well buy the whole wheelset.
I need to clarify about the pricing.
If a wheel set is offered for, let's say, 1,000, & IF just a rear wheel is offered [often times not offered separate] it might be listed at 750. Shipping is separate for both scenarios.
IMO, that's a bit high for a rear wheel if bought a la carte from the same vendor & of the same model/series.
I haven't did a deep dive into a price per part breakdown, only because most of the details to do so are not always through enough for doing such dive.
I do understand that the rear hub is going to be more than the front, but that's the only major item to throw off the parts costs.
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I need to clarify about the pricing.
If a wheel set is offered for, let's say, 1,000, & IF just a rear wheel is offered [often times not offered separate] it might be listed at 750. Shipping is separate for both scenarios.
IMO, that's a bit high for a rear wheel if bought a la carte from the same vendor & of the same model/series.
Now that you have clarified that it is 3/4 (not 2/3 as originally stated), then yes, I suppose that is a bit high (at least in the $1,000 price range).

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I haven't did a deep dive into a price per part breakdown, only because most of the details to do so are not always through enough for doing such dive.
Many wheel builders break down the price differential when you choose one option vs. another, so I suppose you can figure that out.

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I do understand that the rear hub is going to be more than the front, but that's the only major item to throw off the parts costs.
Plus more spokes and nipples on the rear wheel, which generally requires different spoke types and lengths. I don't know if that is "major," but those costs do add up. So like I said, 2/3 seems quite reasonable.
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do they offer only a rear assembly? If so, do they price it to be reasonable & not like most do by charging 2/3 of the cost for a set?
how do I get in touch with them? Website?
I bet if you Google 'psimet wheels' you will find the website and contact info to answer your pricing question.
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a hard requirement for a quiet freehub.
Never coast. Problem solved.
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Never coast. Problem solved.
pacificslly, I am closer to the Atlantic coast... Eastern Seaboard.
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