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Old 05-03-16, 07:10 PM
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Disc Brakes in racing.2

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Need for a stronger rider's union.
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What? You didn't think all the manufacturers would put pressure on the UCI?
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Need for a stronger rider's union.
Union mmmno
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I wonder if those in favor of banning disc brakes, would also be for banning chains and sprockets in favor of belt drives and IGH's?

Are you REALLY against discs because of safety concerns?

Or are you just resistant to change? Or maybe that your rim brake bike won't look the part anymore?

If safety really is the priority, a soft rubber belt and smooth pulleys are certainly safer for riders to pile up on.

And if a belt drive set up slows the peloton, all the better. Speed kills, you know.
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Fine, I'll do my part by buying nothing but disc brake bikes from now on...two this year already.
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Disc make sense. I'm a believer.
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How is this any different from professional riders being slow/resistant to adopt:

1. Clipless pedals
2. Aero bars
3. STI
4. 25c tires and lower pressures

This is playing out no differently than those items did. Same rhetoric. Most likely same results.
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disk brake solve a lot of problem caused by carbon rim. You can't have carbon fiber and high conductivity.
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I got to get me a disc brake equipped road bike!
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Originally Posted by mooder
You can't have carbon fiber and high conductivity.
I assume you mean heat, because spark plug wires had been made from carbon for years.

Luckily i'm not a pro so i don't ride or descend at "pro" speeds. So my carbon wheels won't assplode.

But I did just buy a gravel bike for foul weather and it has hydro disc brakes.
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench
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Are you REALLY against discs because of safety concerns?
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I'm against discs because we need a standard bike to compete on.
I'm against electronics - shifting, GPS, radios...
The racing sport needs to be simplified and taken back to rider and mechanical machine. Discs are just another unneeded thing and they are not safer than what they have now. They are also a PIA to transport, change and also make safe.
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Originally Posted by mooder
disk brake solve a lot of problem caused by carbon rim. You can't have carbon fiber and high conductivity.
There is no problem racing with carbon rims. I have no idea where that idea came from.
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Originally Posted by Doge
There is no problem racing with carbon rims. I have no idea where that idea came from.
He'said probably referring to carbon clinchers
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Originally Posted by Doge
I'm against discs because we need a standard bike to compete on.
I'm against electronics - shifting, GPS, radios...
The racing sport needs to be simplified and taken back to rider and mechanical machine. Discs are just another unneeded thing and they are not safer than what they have now. They are also a PIA to transport, change and also make safe.
If everyone throughout time had that attitude, we'd still be on wooden rim singlespeeds. Racing has always used the technical advances of the day. Just because you have chosen to stop accepting new things, you shouldn't expect the rest of the world to do the same.
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench
I wonder if those in favor of banning disc brakes, would also be for banning chains and sprockets in favor of belt drives and IGH's?
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench
If everyone throughout time had that attitude, we'd still be on wooden rim singlespeeds. Racing has always used the technical advances of the day. Just because you have chosen to stop accepting new things, you shouldn't expect the rest of the world to do the same.
It is very funny how "the right amount of technology" is usually "what I got used to growing up".
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
I can't find it now, but I thought two riders claimed injuries from rotors during Paris-Roubaix. Am I making that up?

As I've been reading up on this topic since Paris-Roubaix, one thing has sparked my interest: the high-end road bike rotors are much thinner than the rotors I use for my MTBs and my gravel grinder.

This rotor appears much thinner/sharper than anything I use:



This looks like rotors I use on my bikes:



My gravel grinder:



I have said it many times in the other thread on this subject - I'm not advocating for disc brakes in road racing, my road bikes have rim brakes and I like it that way. OTOH, I do find this subject interesting. IMHO I think there is a lot hysteria on this subject and few facts.

edit - footnote: I took the picture of my bike with the QR open to show an example of QR recall last year.
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Originally Posted by RoderWrench
If everyone throughout time had that attitude, we'd still be on wooden rim singlespeeds. Racing has always used the technical advances of the day. Just because you have chosen to stop accepting new things, you shouldn't expect the rest of the world to do the same.
I expect you are correct. But many think that way in wheeled sports. AWD cars banned in British Touring Car, No radio control in F1 and no antilock brakes. Hand crafted wood rims would be great.

I'm posting about the UCI rules, not what the consumer gets to buy. Consumers already ride nicer stuff than allowed in UCI races. It is a sport authority, and like in other sports, the committee votes on what the rules will be.
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Thank cow we started a whole new thread to hash out the same exact issues. I think we'll really change some hearts and minds this time.
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Honest question here...why so much concern over what UCI thinks? Is anyone here competing in UCI races? Of the hundreds of races I've done over the years, not one has been UCI (at least the event I competed in, there were UCI (pro) events at some).

USAC doesn't ban them in road or cross. Nor has any other governing body I'd raced with.

Is this just a subject for arguing?
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The equipment companies telling consumers what they absolutely need and using pro-sports to push those products. Nothing new here.
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Originally Posted by HOWSER
Honest question here...why so much concern over what UCI thinks? Is anyone here competing in UCI races? Of the hundreds of races I've done over the years, not one has been UCI (at least the event I competed in, there were UCI (pro) events at some).

USAC doesn't ban them in road or cross. Nor has any other governing body I'd raced with.

Is this just a subject for arguing?
Are you new here?
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Are you new here?
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Is this just a subject for arguing?
Yes.
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