LBCwanabe 

I picked this up over the summer. It has full campy throughout. I’m in the process of refurbishment.
But, I know very little about this model Miyata. It looks fast and is very lightweight. I seem to remember reading this was sold as a frame set only in this color.
Any info is appreciated as well as what is it worth?

Thank

SurferRosa

The '90 Team included a brazed fd fitting and chrome chainstays, but I don't know about that paint combination.

Welcome to the Miyata/Campy club. It's a select group.


'82 912

79pmooney

My Pro Miyata I picked up a few weeks ago from hazetguy looks to be somewhere between your two Miyatas. I believe mine was SunTour Superbe. Hazerguy provided Superbe FD and RD plus unparked brakes but everything had been outside so long, nove of that is useeable. (Maybe I can save the FD.) It's all Cyclone now.

But the frame - I have SurferRosa'a fork' seatlug, fork, the CroMo stickers, clamp-on FD, the chrome though it's nearly all painted over (it was probably a saving grace in the rain), RD cable runs like Surfer's but a braze-on for the SunTour Symmetric shifter. No ST WB bosses, no HT pump peg. It looks like the OP's fork crown is different but similar blades.

My frame is race steep but not radical. TT is not long, in fact identical to my Mooney which I always felt was slightly short for my long arms, but - the handling is right on! No bad habits at all. I've struggled on my ti custom with speed wobbles, getting worse as I get older, more aware of my mortality and less strong and confident. This bike is rock solid steady at 45, about the fastest I've gone so far. I think the shorter TT has a lot to do with it. Perhaps both Miyata and Peter Mooney know something. It also rides and feels like a pure thoroughbred. (And sounds like it. I still have a metal sound on chip seal I haven';t chased down yet and it sounds like a perfect chrome moly bell.)

Long stems work just fine. I have a 155 on it just like I do on my Mooney. Both fit like gloves with sublime (though different) rides.

I"m still wondering what year my bike is. '85 or later for Symmetric? Other details like SurferRosa's. Someone told me they thought '90. I'm thinking more like '85. (When did Symmetric come out? Miyata might have been tight with SuTour like Fuji was in the '70s. If so, an appearance on a Miyata could have preceeded the debut by a years, (Superbe came out on the Fuji Pro 1977 and debuted in '78. I worked at a Fuji shop '77 while racing my '76 Pro. The bike in the window had me drooling all summer.)

SurferRosa

This Velobase page for the shifters says '81.

https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...=104&AbsPos=29

Piff 

I think symmetric shifters went the way of the dodo for high end racing bikes by '84. '85 definitely. I think 82 and 83 were the big years for it.

Mr. 66

I have the 1980 version with the iconic blue and gold. Sublime, one of the best frames I have.

79pmooney

The blue being over chrome for the fork and stays? Gold panels and headtube? That's my bike. Velobase says my shifters came out in '81. Well, if Miyata was tight with SunTour, my bike could have been an '80. (I like! Those first year Superbe Fujis were beautifully built. Nice as any Italian frame for workmanship. Alignment spot on. ) Like SurferRosa's, I have the cable housing runs for the derailleur cables over the BB. (So short it was hard getting the housing in. But the cable runs sweet.) And that would explain the lack of ST WB boss and HT pump peg. Horizontal dropouts. That ST cage is now clamped on (thank you, Zephal) and a Zephal HPX 3, not 4 is on the TT with a peg clamped on. (Zephal; just quietly making stuff to get bikes to work better.)

So this bike is closer, age-wise than I thought to my old Fuji. Ride-wise, it shares similarities (thankfully not as quick steering or high BB'd; real blessings in Cat 3/4 races but not now) but the feel! This tubing feels wonderful! Alive, stiff, all the glowing stuff they say about the good Cro-Mo.

bikemig 

My team Miyata was one of the best riding bikes I have ever owned. This is the first red one I’ve seen and I worked for a Miyata dealer. That’s a good looking bike.

Mr. 66

I may be picking up one of the red and yellow version this weekend.

squirtdad

I can't find a team with that paint scheme in the miyata catalogss. Maybe koga/miyata?

it would be a big help to see the top tube without the cover also what do the tubing stickers say that can help date


I have an 84 and and 85 team

seypat

The 86 catalog pic shows it in blue with the same fork crown, tubing decals, head tube decal and drive side chrome chainstay. Other decals look different. You might try an 87 catalog.

seypat

https://velobase.com/Resource_Tools/CatalogScans.aspx

seypat

I think the 88s and newer had unicrown forks.

seypat

There's a red/white one in this thread. Contact the poster.

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...am-miyata.html

79pmooney

Just went for a ride on my Pro Miyata, looked down and got reminded I have the ovalized "aero" fork blades and seatstays like the OP's, not SurferRosa's round seatstays. When did those start? Still trying to narrow the build date down.

John Nolan 

Have you posted the serial number?

LBCwanabe 

Thanks for the info everyone!

Here it is taped up:

squirtdad

this was driving me crazy, but i think I have the answer

it is an 87 available only as a frame only see page 22 https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2087.pdfhe fully equipped team looked like it retained the blue with black head tube see page 2

but also the team is also shown in blue and white colors ???? page 7

the over all specs on page 26 say it is blue and white and would have come 7 speed dura ace

so I would guess that page 2 was done before final color scheme was known and that the final color schemes were

• equipped team was blue/white and
• frame only was the red white

wonderful frames, as noted I have 2 84 which is double butted, 85 which is triple butted, but not splined...... I had an 89 1400 that was spline triple butted, but id died due to the crack in the aero brake cable routing problme

John Nolan 

Nice sleuthing!

seypat

The 90 or 91s came as frame only also. I have one of those.

jerrylis

that is am amazing bike... 912s were awesome machines... I think the brand is undervalued

bikamper

I would have killed for a Team or Pro in the eighties. All I could afford, though, was a 710. No regrets. I still ride it forty some years later.

Pompiere

I was living on Navy enlisted pay, so I decided save a few more dollars and got the 310. It also turned forty this year and gets ridden regularly. It is mostly original, but I have made some accommodations for my age, like a taller stem and Brooks saddle.

1984 Miyata 310

bikamper

Nice. I had a two year old at the time. I see you have a Flikstand on it, too.

The 710 is MOSTLY stock. I swapped out the 27" Arayas for 700c Super Champions. One of those still survives. The B17 has been on there since 84. I rode my first century, double century, and 24hr TT on it.

Pompiere

I loved the Flikstand, except for covering the downtube decal. You could lean the bike anywhere and it wouldn't fall over. I rebuilt the original wheels with SS spokes, but now it has 700c Araya VX-400 wheels and Continental Gator Skins. I rode it on my first century in '86, then two more in 2011 to prove I still could. I've never done a double or 24 hr. I thought I would have more time for that stuff once I retired, but I am doing good just to squeeze in a short ride, let alone train for a long one.