Am I too fat for these wheels?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Posts: 3,213
Bikes: Tons
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Am I too fat for these wheels?
I just picked up a pair of wheels at Veloswap for a pretty good deal. They're a bit older.
Mavic Open S.U.P. SBP, which are pretty narrow, Shimano 600 tricolor hubs, and only 28 spokes.
I fear that 28 spokes is too few. I weigh about 240 right now.
Thoughts?
Mavic Open S.U.P. SBP, which are pretty narrow, Shimano 600 tricolor hubs, and only 28 spokes.
I fear that 28 spokes is too few. I weigh about 240 right now.
Thoughts?
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Rural Minnesota
Posts: 1,604
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 75 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I'm not familiar with those components, but it's not the number of spokes as much as it is the quality of build. I'm pretty close to your weight and would ride 28-spoke wheels if properly built and adequately and evenly tensioned.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 38,729
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5793 Post(s)
Liked 2,594 Times
in
1,437 Posts
Ok for a smooth rider of your weight, on smooth roads. But pushing the envelope if roads are bad or you have an aggressive riding style, ie. hard sharp maneuvers, rocking the bike when sprinting or climbing, bunny hops, etc.
The above also depends on the quality of the build, so that's another variable.
If you like them use them for rides they're suited for. Or consider swapping them for something better suited to how and where you ride.
The above also depends on the quality of the build, so that's another variable.
If you like them use them for rides they're suited for. Or consider swapping them for something better suited to how and where you ride.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,888
Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7 AXS, Trek Emonda ALR AXS, Trek FX 5 Sport
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 769 Post(s)
Liked 1,748 Times
in
1,017 Posts
You should be fine. I rode some Mavic Reflex with 600 hubs when I was well over 300. In fact, I just finally retired them as the brake surface was pretty shot. Just check the spoke holes for cracks since they are used.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,265
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18429 Post(s)
Liked 15,583 Times
in
7,338 Posts
They are not a good deal if they don't work for you.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mountain View, CA USA and Golden, CO USA
Posts: 6,341
Bikes: 97 Litespeed, 50-39-30x13-26 10 cogs, Campagnolo Ultrashift, retroreflective rims on SON28/PowerTap hubs
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 550 Post(s)
Liked 325 Times
in
226 Posts
I bent my 400g Mavic Reflex clincher front with over 10 years of trouble free use within months of riding it at 200-215 pounds plus luggage.
#7
Thread Killer
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 12,453
Bikes: 15 Kinesis Racelight 4S, 76 Motebecane Gran Jubilée, 17 Dedacciai Gladiatore2, 12 Breezer Venturi, 09 Dahon Mariner, 12 Mercier Nano, 95 DeKerf Team SL, 19 Tern Rally, 21 Breezer Doppler Cafe+, 19 T-Lab X3, 91 Serotta CII, 23 3T Strada
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3152 Post(s)
Liked 1,717 Times
in
1,036 Posts
That's some pretty aged stuff; 600 tricolor is what, late '80s? I remember when buying my Lotus in '88, that I really wanted to make the upgrade to that 600, but couldn't swing it. It was so modern looking!
So wear-tear is a big unknown, here.
So wear-tear is a big unknown, here.
#8
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Posts: 3,213
Bikes: Tons
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Posts: 3,213
Bikes: Tons
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Like I said, the deal was a pretty good deal, and they match the rest of the bike. It's not exactly a vintage resto though, so if they happen to be problematic, I have no qualms getting wheels that are better suited for me.
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 2,243
Bikes: Specialized Sequoia Elite/Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Ti/'85 Trek 520
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
I had a Mavic Open Pro 28 spoke wheel on an Ultegra hub (smooth as glass). It was one of the older Open Pros. I got it used at my old bike co-op about 2 years ago. I am a bit bigger than you at 380 pounds. I rebuilt the wheel when I got it with some used spokes. It was donated to us with a couple of broken spokes. I have been riding on it on and off the last couple of years. It did become my main rear wheel during this past summer when I was riding my Specialized Sequoia. I loved that wheel however I did have to retire it at the end of summer. The rim around the eyelets started to crack so I junked the rim. I ride light, I don't bunny hop, hit potholes, avoid as many obstacles as possible, only ride on pavement, etc. For all I know, the rim had over 10,000 miles on it when I got it. It never collapsed or failed other than the spoke holes started cracking. After i junked the rim, I put the spokes and hub aside and was looking for a replacement rim when my buddy gave me one of those offset Richley 28 hole rims that I rebuilt the hub on. The ERD of both rims was nearly identical.
Overall I was satisfied with the way the rim lasted under my huge weight with an unknown history and broken spokes when I first got it.
Overall I was satisfied with the way the rim lasted under my huge weight with an unknown history and broken spokes when I first got it.
#11
got the climbing bug
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 10,208
Bikes: one for everything
Mentioned: 82 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 633 Post(s)
Liked 915 Times
in
277 Posts
what bike do you plan on installing them on? 7spd hubs might be 126mm rear spacing.
I don't think 28/28 will be a problem, but do check the spoke tension.
I don't think 28/28 will be a problem, but do check the spoke tension.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,472 Times
in
2,079 Posts
Spoke tension can be an issue on old wheels. Also try running a little fatter tire (say a 700 x 28c) as that will help.
#13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Posts: 3,213
Bikes: Tons
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'm planning on trying 700x25s. The rim's inside with is 13mm (the label on the rim says 622-13). Based on the charts I've seen, 700x25 is the conservative maximum width for the rim. Could probably do 28s, but I don't think a 28 will clear the frame.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 1,134
Bikes: Borealis Echo, Ground Up Designs Ti Cross bike, Xtracycle, GT mod trials bike, pixie race machine
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
It is not what I would consider the ideal wheel for you but as long as the build is good they should still hold up for quite a while assuming you ride with a little finesse through rough stuff.
I weigh just over 200 lbs and used 28 hole wheels on my cargo bike and they stayed true until I wore through the brake track and that bike saw total weight of around 400lbs at times. A good build goes a long way.
I weigh just over 200 lbs and used 28 hole wheels on my cargo bike and they stayed true until I wore through the brake track and that bike saw total weight of around 400lbs at times. A good build goes a long way.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 6,888
Bikes: Trek Domane SLR 7 AXS, Trek CheckPoint SL7 AXS, Trek Emonda ALR AXS, Trek FX 5 Sport
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 769 Post(s)
Liked 1,748 Times
in
1,017 Posts
If you want, i have the 600 hubs in 32 spoke that I planned on posting for sale. PM me if your interested. The are very smooth and i just serviced them.