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Wheels 90%
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Wheels 75%
4
14.81%
Wheels 60%
6
22.22%
50% wheels and 50% frame
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11.11%
Frame 60%
0
0%
Frame 75%
4
14.81%
Frame 90%
6
22.22%
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Hot frame or hot wheels?

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Old 10-21-13, 12:31 PM
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Hot frame or hot wheels?

You're a pro rider and riding all 3 Grand Tours, you can only ride 1 bike for the entire length of all tours and you can pick to either have a top of the line frameset or a top of the line wheelset.....which would you pick?

And what % would you say your choice contributes to the overall performance of the bike Is a pro bikes performance 50/50 wheels/frame or 10/90 wheels/frame or 90/10 fram/ wheels?

I've always believed that it didn't matter what kind of bike the pro's rode, if you put them all on the same bikes the same guys will still podium.

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60% wheels, 40% frame. I am new to the sport so don't quote me on the reasons why. I'd pick a good aluminum frame with a nice set of carbon wheels before going the other way around... I think.

Lets say,

I prefer a CAAD10 with Enve SES 6.7 vs. Specialized Tarmac expert SL4 with Mavic Ksyrium SLs.

The extreme would be:

Felt z100 with Reynold RZRs vs. a Cervelo WVD R5 with Shimano R501.
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Old 10-21-13, 01:28 PM
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Am I a pro rider, or am I me? Because if I am me, and I am getting the chance to ride all 3 grand tours, at my pace, I want a steel single speed and a flip flop hub. I want to roll 1930"s style.
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Tough. I'd love to get a Pinarello Dogma, but I don't want to be on 10% wheels. What's a CAAD10 considered? I'd want something comfortable no doubt. A cheap frame isn't going to be to nice, even with good wheels. A really nice frame with cheap-o wheels might be the better of the two, but with the amount of climbing done, a nice set of lighter wheels would be invaluable.

CAAD10 with nice semi-shallow carbon fiber wheels (Zipp 303s or ENVE 45s or Boyd 44mm or November 52 Rails).

It would be light weight up climbs, not to mean in the cross winds, somewhat aero in the headwinds. Not to mention since components weren't mentioned, I could get the CAAD10 at or below pro weight without much difficulty.
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I voted 90% frame.

You're looking at a ~$15k bike. So, with 90% of the money on the frame, you're left with finding a decent set of wheels for <$1000. There's plenty of <1800g Al wheels that are plenty nice in that price range.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
Your rider and riding all 3 Grand Tours, you can only ride 1 bike for the entire length of all tours and you can pick to either have a top of the line frameset or a top of the line wheelset.....which would you pick?

And what % would you say your choice contributes to the overall performance of the bike Is a pro bikes performance 50/50 wheels frame or 10/90 wheels frame or 90/10 frame wheels?

I've always believed that it didn't matter what kind of bike the pros rode, if you put them all on the same bikes the same guys will still podium.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
I voted 90% frame.

You're looking at a ~$15k bike. So, with 90% of the money on the frame, you're left with finding a decent set of wheels for <$1000. There's plenty of <1800g Al wheels that are plenty nice in that price range.
Nice logic but not exactly what I had in mind. For arguements sake lets use the Colnago catalog.

Would you rather ride a C59 Italia msrp $16,000 or a Strada SL msrp $1700

A: C59 with Strada SL wheels or...
B. Strada SL with C59 wheels?

Or the Trek catalog...Madone 7.9 msrp $11,500, 1.1 msrp $750

A: Madone 7.9 with 1.1 wheels or...
b. 1.1 with Madone 7.9 wheels

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Old 10-26-13, 12:22 AM
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I Interested in more responses. I'm building a new bike with alloy powertap and a nice frame, so my choice was frame. But thats due to powertap being expensive no matter the wheel.
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