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Old 05-19-21, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
That's sexy as hell!! I'm admittedly out of touch with most modern MTB trends, but recent poking around on websites, I'm seeing a lot of bikes in the 28+ range.
Yeah, most of them are rather portly. XC bikes are a niche product nowadays.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
This one's only 22.5 lbs

With that small chainring and the huge cog, I imagine butterflies pass you on steep hills.
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Old 05-19-21, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
And yet several people here refuse to learn the definition of this simple noun. See post #5359
No. We've been down this road before.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
With that small chainring and the huge cog, I imagine butterflies pass you on steep hills.
Mine came with a 32 on the front and a 46 big cog. It wasn't low enough so I put a 28 on the front which helped a lot. Newer drivetrains have a 50, 51, or 52 in the back.

If I had a lightweight XC bike like pictured above I could probably use a slightly higher low gear.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
With that small chainring and the huge cog, I imagine butterflies pass you on steep hills.
IMO, gnats are more of an issue than butterflies. If I recall from my MTB days of many years ago, the local variety of gnats have a max. speed of 5mph. Below that line, and they swarm your head during warm summer days. Above that line, and you're all clear.
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Originally Posted by big john
Mine came with a 32 on the front and a 46 big cog. It wasn't low enough so I put a 28 on the front which helped a lot. Newer drivetrains have a 50, 51, or 52 in the back.

If I had a lightweight XC bike like pictured above I could probably use a slightly higher low gear.
That's Emily Batty's bike and the article says she runs 34T up front. I can't tell by looking if that's a 45 or 51 big cog in back.

I like to be able to crawl up steep stuff occasionally so after a couple years with the single 34T x 11-46 I decided to go for a double 24/34 up front.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
This one's only 22.5 lbs

nice paint job. ugly as heck bike.
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Originally Posted by gnome
nice paint job. ugly as heck bike.
Personally, MTBs do nothing for me, though I can appreciate the design and technology and the fact that a lot of people have one hell of a good time on them.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
That's sexy as hell!! I'm admittedly out of touch with most modern MTB trends, but recent poking around on websites, I'm seeing a lot of bikes in the 28+ range.
Specializing has created multiple categories where there used to just be mountain bikes. Now, beside XC, there are trail bikes, and enduro and now they're making something in between XC and trail called "down country". They still make downhill race bikes and freeride bikes (downhill light).

Then there are wheel sizes, 27.5 or 29. Tires come in different widths and weights. When I rode a 26er XC bike my lighter tires were around 500 grams. The bike I have came with 825 gram tires and it's a 27.5 enduro type bike. Tires can be had for my bike upwards of 1200 grams. Those would be for sharp rocks.

If I had the disposable income I would get a light XC type bike for certain rides. The enduro bike I have will handle rough descents and rocks but it's not a fast climber. I think the extra suspension and slack geometry makes up for my mistakes on the trail. It weighs about 32 pounds stock.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
That's Emily Batty's bike and the article says she runs 34T up front. I can't tell by looking if that's a 45 or 51 big cog in back
She's probably not a fat 67 year old man, though.
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Originally Posted by big john
She's probably not a fat 67 year old man, though.
Not exactly. Here's the video. I can hardly watch it because she thinks it's acceptable to say mil to mean millimetres. and millilitres too. Uggh. THEN there's the way she pronounces Shimano. It's like how Gordon Ramsey pronounces pasta.

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Originally Posted by big john
She's probably not a fat 67 year old man, though.
Probably not.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Not exactly. Here's the video. I can hardly watch it because she thinks it's acceptable to say mil to mean millimetres. and millilitres too. Uggh. THEN there's the way she pronounces Shimano. It's like how Gordon Ramsey pronounces pasta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryET2xQJlxk
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The shakedown ride of the coupled bike lasted for two and a half blocks. The bars rotated on a front brake check. It is clear that practice is in order. My daily ride is a 61cm stiff racing bike. This one is a 58 cm sports tourer. Unfamiliar territory.
AT least it is not full squish.
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We know.
I made it abundantly clear.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Agree 100% but your point is mute. Which really should be moot. You know.
I worked with a guy, back in the 80s, who talked about mute points all the time. So annoying.
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My back is full squish. That's not a good thing.
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One of my club mates is out in LA visiting family. He did a ride today that went within 2 blocks of where we will be staying in August. I might have to steal his route.
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No. We've been down this road before.
It bothers him for some reason. I'm ok with that.
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Originally Posted by big john
Up town funk you up?

Say what ?
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Say what ?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
No. We've been down this road before.
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Say what ?
You're welcome.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
You don't eat before noon? I frequently don't, but I have willpower.
Sometimes. But always coffee.

Plural?
Yes.

Maybe he's a poet?
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It's been a while since I gave you a quality recommendation. Here's one for you.
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