People - INSULATE YOUR HANDS
01-26-07, 07:37 PM
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People - INSULATE YOUR HANDS
I just got in from an 8.5 mile ride in 20 degrees. Around the tip of manhattan, so I was near water. I just got in a 5 minutes ago, and my hands lit up in almost excruciating pain. PLEASE INSULATE YOUR HANDS. I was wearing a double layer of gloves but it's obvious that this was not enough.
01-26-07, 08:05 PM
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Hmmm.....I've done 26 mile rides in 20 degree weather with my Eastern Mountain Sports windstopper gloves (basically glove liners that are windproof), and haven't had much of an issue.
But I agree....keep the hands, feet and head (and neck/lower face) warm and you'll be fine.
But I agree....keep the hands, feet and head (and neck/lower face) warm and you'll be fine.
01-26-07, 08:06 PM
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If 2 gloves allowed for that to happen you were wearing the wrong gloves.
For the love of God don't run hot water on your hands.
For the love of God don't run hot water on your hands.
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01-26-07, 08:21 PM
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01-26-07, 08:25 PM
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^^ Just letting the hands warm up naturally, or use warm water. Hot water can cause a burn.
Here's a snippet from Auerbach's Wilderness Medicine...
Here's a snippet from Auerbach's Wilderness Medicine...
Originally Posted by Auerbach: Wilderness Medicine, 4th ed., Copyright © 2001 Mosby, Inc
Treatment.
All wet and constricting clothing should be removed and hypothermia treated aggressively. Rapid rewarming, the primary treatment for frostbite, should be initiated as soon as possible. This is best accomplished by immersion of the frostbitten area in water warmed to 40° to 42° C (104° to 107.6° F). This narrow temperature range maximizes rewarming speed while preventing further injury from a burn wound. Thawing usually takes 30 to 45 minutes and is complete when the skin is soft and pliable. Although field rewarming is indicated unless evacuation occurs quickly, great care should be taken to avoid refreezing. Refreezing causes much more damage than delayed thawing. Vigorous rubbing should also be avoided because it is ineffective and potentially harmful. After thawing, blister fluid should be aspirated to prevent further contact with tissue-damaging prostaglandins and thromboxanes, and a sterile dressing should be applied.
All wet and constricting clothing should be removed and hypothermia treated aggressively. Rapid rewarming, the primary treatment for frostbite, should be initiated as soon as possible. This is best accomplished by immersion of the frostbitten area in water warmed to 40° to 42° C (104° to 107.6° F). This narrow temperature range maximizes rewarming speed while preventing further injury from a burn wound. Thawing usually takes 30 to 45 minutes and is complete when the skin is soft and pliable. Although field rewarming is indicated unless evacuation occurs quickly, great care should be taken to avoid refreezing. Refreezing causes much more damage than delayed thawing. Vigorous rubbing should also be avoided because it is ineffective and potentially harmful. After thawing, blister fluid should be aspirated to prevent further contact with tissue-damaging prostaglandins and thromboxanes, and a sterile dressing should be applied.
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Look at the glove post a couple days ago. My hands are typically too hot on cold rides. Now my feet - different story...
P.S. My little finger was slightly frost bite in high school once during a baseball game (go figure). Anyway it took years for it to not be super senstive to cold. It's fine now, but I bet it was 10 years before I stopped noticing that finger would get cold first...
P.S. My little finger was slightly frost bite in high school once during a baseball game (go figure). Anyway it took years for it to not be super senstive to cold. It's fine now, but I bet it was 10 years before I stopped noticing that finger would get cold first...
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01-26-07, 08:44 PM
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I held my hands up to avoid them swelling with too much blood, then kept them straight out. I warmed them with my breath, and then I got someone to make sure the water was warm before I rinsed my hands in them for 2 minutes, and dryed them off with a warm towel, pain subsided.
01-26-07, 09:29 PM
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I actually found my feet freezing today but my hands are fine.
01-26-07, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPete
If 2 gloves allowed for that to happen you were wearing the wrong gloves.
I have poor circulation in my extremities, it's a family thing. As a result, I own about 9 pairs of gloves, and so many socks I don't know what to do. Every variation has a purpose. For short rides like the one you described, i'd probably opt for either my thinsulate-lined leather, or my neoprene. Rarely do I need to combine pairs of gloves, with the notable exception of using a pair of polypro or nylon liner gloves when I know I'm going to need to take off my thick gloves and use my fingers for something fine.
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01-26-07, 09:37 PM
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OMG! You guys riding in these temperatures is amazing to me! 
The lowest I've ever ridden in is about 40F, and that's only been a few times on early morning commutes for less than 1hr. Typically, the coldest we get in the middle of winter is about 50F
The lowest I've ever ridden in is about 40F, and that's only been a few times on early morning commutes for less than 1hr. Typically, the coldest we get in the middle of winter is about 50F
01-26-07, 09:42 PM
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I tried out two gloves tonight:
Gore bike wear gore-tex glove $78 - useless, within 10 mins my pinky finger was too cold.
LG Magma windtex insulated lobster gloves with glove liners $42? (on sale) - much better, the tips on the fingers were a little cold but comfortable.
As far as feet, smartwool socks with chemical toe warmers and just MTB sidi shoes - good enough, but wouldn't do a 2hr ride like this
Gore bike wear gore-tex glove $78 - useless, within 10 mins my pinky finger was too cold.
LG Magma windtex insulated lobster gloves with glove liners $42? (on sale) - much better, the tips on the fingers were a little cold but comfortable.
As far as feet, smartwool socks with chemical toe warmers and just MTB sidi shoes - good enough, but wouldn't do a 2hr ride like this
01-26-07, 09:59 PM
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last week i rode 44 miles in 13 degree weather. i wore a pair of snow gloves plus an inner liner. my hands were fine...
+1 for wrong gloves
+1 for wrong gloves
01-27-07, 12:19 AM
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I'm actually an advocate of doing "cold hand intervals." I have been able to train "hunters hands." You have to start in the fall, and ride without gloves until your hands get uncomfortable, then glove up. When they warm up, remove the gloves and go again. By the time winter sets in, your hands will be a lot tougher. I've been able to sit outside for 3 hours at 0 degrees without gloves (astronomy) and not have even slightly cold hands (high in the Wasatch mountains). When I went to the car, my hands were pink and very warm to the touch.
I've heard tha Alaskan pipeline workers don't need gloves either...
I still have to wear gloves when it gets cold on the bike, but I find I'm a lot more durable if I've trained for it.
I've heard tha Alaskan pipeline workers don't need gloves either...
I still have to wear gloves when it gets cold on the bike, but I find I'm a lot more durable if I've trained for it.
01-27-07, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
I'm actually an advocate of doing "cold hand intervals." I have been able to train "hunters hands." You have to start in the fall, and ride without gloves until your hands get uncomfortable, then glove up. When they warm up, remove the gloves and go again. By the time winter sets in, your hands will be a lot tougher. I've been able to sit outside for 3 hours at 0 degrees without gloves (astronomy) and not have even slightly cold hands (high in the Wasatch mountains). When I went to the car, my hands were pink and very warm to the touch.
I've heard tha Alaskan pipeline workers don't need gloves either...
I still have to wear gloves when it gets cold on the bike, but I find I'm a lot more durable if I've trained for it.
I've heard tha Alaskan pipeline workers don't need gloves either...
I still have to wear gloves when it gets cold on the bike, but I find I'm a lot more durable if I've trained for it.
01-27-07, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
OMG! You guys riding in these temperatures is amazing to me!
The lowest I've ever ridden in is about 40F, and that's only been a few times on early morning commutes for less than 1hr. Typically, the coldest we get in the middle of winter is about 50F
The lowest I've ever ridden in is about 40F, and that's only been a few times on early morning commutes for less than 1hr. Typically, the coldest we get in the middle of winter is about 50F
And in the winter, how low you can go. I'll ride down to 35F with no wind. Lower is utterly pointless. Isn't this why trainers were invented, and gyms were built?
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01-27-07, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankBattle
. I'll ride down to 35F with no wind. Lower is utterly pointless. Isn't this why trainers were invented, and gyms were built?
01-27-07, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankBattle
And in the winter, how low you can go. I'll ride down to 35F with no wind. Lower is utterly pointless. Isn't this why trainers were invented, and gyms were built?[/SIZE]
01-27-07, 06:58 AM
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