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Old 10-27-22, 05:20 PM
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Which cartridge Bottom Bracket for 1992 Specialized Hard Rock?

I need to replace the bottom bracket on my 1992 Specialized Hard Rock and I'm not quite sure what size or model to get. When I measured the spindle with my calipers I came up with 124mm. When I measured the painted part of the frame with my tape measure I got 2 5/8" which is about 66.6mm. I had a tough time getting an accurate measurement with the tape measure. Can anyone point me towards a good affordable replacement cartridge bottom bracket?

I'm seeing the UN55 and UN300 as popular choices but I'm nervous about choosing the incorrect size. Thank you!





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It looks like you need a 124mm spindle probably JIS taper. However your cranks determine all of this not so much the bike. I would look at the Interloc Racing Designs they make excellent BBs
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Any other markings on the spindle like 3S or 3NN?

Do "A" and "C" measure the same? See diagram here

​​​​​​https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html
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You have a 68mm bottom bracket shell. Table of BB spindle sizes by Sheldon Brown lists symmetric equivalents. As veganbikes says, most likely you have a symmetric 124mm one.
There is also JIS vs ISO difference, both UN55 and UN300 are JIS.
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Originally Posted by dedhed
Any other markings on the spindle like 3S or 3NN?

Do "A" and "C" measure the same? See diagram here

​​​​​​https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html
Thanks for the Sheldon Brown link! Yes there is a marking on the other side of the spindle showing "3NN" which on Sheldon's chart indicates 68mm Shell Width and 124mm overall lengths with symmetrical "A" and "C" measurements.

Would this Shimano UN300 BSA 68MM, Spindle 122.5MM be compatible? I'm wondering if losing 1.5mm in length would be problematic?
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Originally Posted by univega.duder
Would this Shimano UN300 BSA 68MM, Spindle 122.5MM be compatible? I'm wondering if losing 1.5mm in length would be problematic?
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Good question...
According to the chart your 3NN has a 124mm spindle, which means it protrudes by (124-68)/2=28mm on each side.

Is UN300 symmetric? Does Shimano have a drawing for it? Something like this old Tange catalog (see the last page) - their 122 is non-symmetric with 28 on the right (what you need) and 26 on the left (should probably be OK, use a pedal washer if you need it).

I think square taper cranksets are pushed further onto the BB every time they are removed/reinstalled, which effectively changes the spindle length. Also, what is the tolerance the BBs are made to? My guess is that you will be OK.
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1.5mm is only 0.75mm per side. Most applications that's "close enough"
Does your chain ring/crank arm clear the chainstay by enough to move in a mm or so?

Riv shows non symmetrical with shift to the R options

​​​​​​https://www.rivbike.com/products/car...nt=38265581965

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Originally Posted by univega.duder
I need to replace the bottom bracket on my 1992 Specialized Hard Rock and I'm not quite sure what size or model to get. When I measured the spindle with my calipers I came up with 124mm. When I measured the painted part of the frame with my tape measure I got 2 5/8" which is about 66.6mm. I had a tough time getting an accurate measurement with the tape measure. Can anyone point me towards a good affordable replacement cartridge bottom bracket?

I'm seeing the UN55 and UN300 as popular choices but I'm nervous about choosing the incorrect size. Thank you!
You have a set of calipers, why not use them to measure the bottom bracket shell? It’s a whole lot easier than trying to use a tape measure. The bottom bracket shell is 68mm, by the way.

You should be able to find any number of BB-UN300 bottom brackets for around $15 on line. As there isn’t a 124mm spindle in that model, you’ll have to use the 122.5 mm. You will need to make some minor adjustments to the limit screws.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
You have a set of calipers, why not use them to measure the bottom bracket shell? It’s a whole lot easier than trying to use a tape measure. The bottom bracket shell is 68mm, by the way.

You should be able to find any number of BB-UN300 bottom brackets for around $15 on line. As there isn’t a 124mm spindle in that model, you’ll have to use the 122.5 mm. You will need to make some minor adjustments to the limit screws.
Thanks Cycommute! Indeed the calipers would have been easier but the small chain ring was interfering and I didn't have the time to remove the cranks yesterday.

I ended up up ordering a Tange LN3922 68x122 - I'm looking forward to installing it.
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Originally Posted by csport
Good question...
According to the chart your 3NN has a 124mm spindle, which means it protrudes by (124-68)/2=28mm on each side.

Is UN300 symmetric? Does Shimano have a drawing for it? Something like this old Tange catalog (see the last page) - their 122 is non-symmetric with 28 on the right (what you need) and 26 on the left (should probably be OK, use a pedal washer if you need it).

I think square taper cranksets are pushed further onto the BB every time they are removed/reinstalled, which effectively changes the spindle length. Also, what is the tolerance the BBs are made to? My guess is that you will be OK.
Thanks CSport! I thoroughly enjoyed looking through the Tange catalog - the bike parts look especially nice next to the images of Mt Fuji and cherry blossoms. I ended up ordering a TangeLN-3922 68x122 which is symmetrical and perhaps slightly higher quality than the UN300. Thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by univega.duder
Thanks Cycommute! Indeed the calipers would have been easier but the small chain ring was interfering and I didn't have the time to remove the cranks yesterday.

I ended up up ordering a Tange LN3922 68x122 - I'm looking forward to installing it.
Just a tip on measuring things with calipers where there is interference with the jaws. The little metal strip in the middle of the main scale is called a depth gauge. Line the end of the caliper up with one side and run the depth gauge out the where you need to measure. Pictures are better




The reading on the caliper isn’t 68mm but that doesn’t matter for a bottom bracket. You don’t need to have two decimal place precision since the common sizes are 68mm and 73mm with 68mm being far more common than 73mm. Honestly, I think I’ve only ever owned one bike with a 73mm bottom bracket out of 50 bikes (mine, my wife’s, and my kids).
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Just a tip on measuring things with calipers where there is interference with the jaws. The little metal strip in the middle of the main scale is called a depth gauge. Line the end of the caliper up with one side and run the depth gauge out the where you need to measure. Pictures are better

The reading on the caliper isn’t 68mm but that doesn’t matter for a bottom bracket. You don’t need to have two decimal place precision since the common sizes are 68mm and 73mm with 68mm being far more common than 73mm. Honestly, I think I’ve only ever owned one bike with a 73mm bottom bracket out of 50 bikes (mine, my wife’s, and my kids).
Thanks Cyccommute - I appreciate the caliper / depth gauge tip and the photo. I've never been quite sure what to do with the depth gauge.
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Thanks Cyccommute - I appreciate the caliper / depth gauge tip and the photo. I've never been quite sure what to do with the depth gauge.
I couldn’t live without it! I use it for all kinds of things like replacing broken axles where you need to get the cones set evenly on both sides of the axle.
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