Do yue glue?
03-24-14, 08:45 AM
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I'm a novice when it comes to gluing tubulars, but I've used Continental rim adhesive and it took forever to cure - so long, that in retrospect it was probably ill advised to ride it for the first couple of months.
(I bought a tin of Panaracer glue for next time.)
(I bought a tin of Panaracer glue for next time.)
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I used Continental tire glue. It is what Pro Bike Kit sold at the time. Worked fine.
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Yes, and I use whatever the LBS has in stock at the time. They seem partial to Vittoria Mastik lately.
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Shouldn't that be "Due yue glue?"?
I have no business answering since I've glued up only one set of wheels and ridden on only one ride longer than half a mile. The advice I got from BF member JJScaliger, who rides sew-up everywhere and on everything AFAIK, was Vittoria Mastik One. (I discovered it is even stocked at a LBS! Bikeway Source at the western end of the Minuteman Bikeway.) It seems to have worked. I'll know how well it and I worked the first time I have a tire roll off a rim at speed.
I have no business answering since I've glued up only one set of wheels and ridden on only one ride longer than half a mile. The advice I got from BF member JJScaliger, who rides sew-up everywhere and on everything AFAIK, was Vittoria Mastik One. (I discovered it is even stocked at a LBS! Bikeway Source at the western end of the Minuteman Bikeway.) It seems to have worked. I'll know how well it and I worked the first time I have a tire roll off a rim at speed.
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03-24-14, 09:11 AM
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Do yue glue?
3M Fast Tack #8031 . Been using it since The 70's. Primary use is for fabric trim adhesive in cars. Specifically made to adhere fabric to metal. Works great on tires. And avaiable at my local Napa auto parts store. Huge tube is $13. Does dozens of tires. Best part is it dries super fast. Also doesnt get all stringy when you use it.
03-24-14, 10:09 AM
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This is what I stock at home. The brushes are ideal for getting a thin consistent layer of glue.
03-24-14, 10:14 AM
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Mastik'one. Used the Panaracer and after changing, will not go back! I use latex gloves from Autoz and my index finger. Like the way it spreads and has minimal strings. Oh yeah, it works too!
03-24-14, 10:16 AM
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I recently saw this being offered on ebay, and, while I remember this brand, I didn't use it back then and understand, maybe from Chaz, that it appears to be a different formula than the old stuff. I used Clement back when. Now I have all manner of glue but the only "fresh" tube is my Vittoria.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bicycle-...item3384fc6daf
BTW, Big chainring, I read in another thread somewhere, probably in the mechanics forum, a post from FBinNY that Fast Tack is good but strong stuff. Perhaps too strong. He said it adhered his base tape so well it pulled it off the tire casing when removing a tire. Never tried it myself though, and I hear it's good.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Bicycle-...item3384fc6daf
BTW, Big chainring, I read in another thread somewhere, probably in the mechanics forum, a post from FBinNY that Fast Tack is good but strong stuff. Perhaps too strong. He said it adhered his base tape so well it pulled it off the tire casing when removing a tire. Never tried it myself though, and I hear it's good.
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Interview with the Tubular Tire Glue Guru: Interview: Chip Howat, tubular tire expert - BikeRadar
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- Vittoria's Mastik One glue provides the strongest overall bond
- Continental glue is a close second – though the difference is greater at elevated temperatures – but cures faster so it's a better choice when time is an issue
- While popular, 3M Fast Tack bonds only 60 percent as well as Mastik One at room temperature and it's also less temperature stable
- Clement, Wolber and Panaracer glues came in at the back of the pack in terms of adhesive strength
- Tufo's dual-sided tape is convenient to use but doesn't work well – the adhesive strength isn't very good plus it doesn't bond the tire at the edges
- Cure time is key – bond strength can climb more than 30 percent higher after 24 hours than just one hour after tire installation, and it continues to improve marginally afterward"
03-24-14, 10:39 AM
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I prefer Continental's glue that comes in the yellow tubes......
Just the correct consistency so you can easily spread them evenly on rims and base tapes with your finger...
Also just the right amount of glue in the tubes so there's not too much left in the tube after you are done, so no waste.
Got to try Vittoria's glue when the guy behind the counter at the LBS gave me the "No Coke,..Pepsi!" response when I asked for a couple of tubes of Continental glue. The Vittoria glue seems to work well at first, but I later noticed that the edges of my tubs were lifting easily when I pulled on them (Uninflated) to check them. I think you need to use more glue with Vittoria to get good results,........so back to Continental glue for me!
Just the correct consistency so you can easily spread them evenly on rims and base tapes with your finger...
Also just the right amount of glue in the tubes so there's not too much left in the tube after you are done, so no waste.
Got to try Vittoria's glue when the guy behind the counter at the LBS gave me the "No Coke,..Pepsi!" response when I asked for a couple of tubes of Continental glue. The Vittoria glue seems to work well at first, but I later noticed that the edges of my tubs were lifting easily when I pulled on them (Uninflated) to check them. I think you need to use more glue with Vittoria to get good results,........so back to Continental glue for me!
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Any guesses as to why Auchen's Continental Glue (see response no. 2, above) took weeks or months to set up? Maybe he got a bad/old tube of product?
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I was using Mastik until one of the big tins "cured" after a year or two. Guess I should have expected that!
Ever since I've been using Conti. It does seem a little easier to work with.
Ever since I've been using Conti. It does seem a little easier to work with.
03-24-14, 10:58 AM
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"Bulk" Pana Cement. Volume "discount" and built in brush on the cap.
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If so, it could be that some of the solvents had evaporated, thus leaving too many solids? Dunno.
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Heck! I use contact cement and a cut down 1" brush from harbor freight.
I will note I bought a pint of glue, the type in the tube is not so nice to work with..
I really like the directions given by this man...very helpful!
only thing I do different is i use 2 cable ties at the valve to be sure to get the best bond in that area, it really makes for a less lumpy wheel
I will note I bought a pint of glue, the type in the tube is not so nice to work with..
I really like the directions given by this man...very helpful!
only thing I do different is i use 2 cable ties at the valve to be sure to get the best bond in that area, it really makes for a less lumpy wheel
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I'm happy with Continental. As chombi pointed out, the consistency is good for spreading with one finger and getting a not-too-thick layer.
For 'cross racing I apply 3 layers to the rim, spaced a few hours apart, and 1 layer to the tire. I use about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 tubes per tire for 'cross where tires are subjected to a season of mud, ice, and all sorts of unfriendly surfaces at around 25 to 30 psi. For road I use between 1 and 1 1/4 tubes per tire.
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For 'cross racing I apply 3 layers to the rim, spaced a few hours apart, and 1 layer to the tire. I use about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 tubes per tire for 'cross where tires are subjected to a season of mud, ice, and all sorts of unfriendly surfaces at around 25 to 30 psi. For road I use between 1 and 1 1/4 tubes per tire.
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I use glue but not for its intended purpose. 
03-24-14, 12:15 PM
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I have problems getting a good bond at the valve. Do you think it possible to come back later and try the zip ties to improve the bond?