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Almost hit yesterday....
Heading home after about 3 hrs in the saddle and I'm trucking along with a tail wind and a mild decent at about 27mph. I saw the women (on her damn cell phone) who was going to turn left across 4 lanes of traffic...she looked at me once...looked right and then pulled out. I swerved because that's all I had time to do and I managed to miss her front bumper by about an inch as she slammed on her brakes and we were almost into oncoming traffic at this point. I cussed a freaking storm at this lady. I hate drivers on cell phones. When are lawmakers going to get smart and outlaw cell phones while driving in all states?
After I had swerved around her I looked back and there were atleast 6 cars behind me being held up by this woman...so it wasn't like she just didn't see me...she didn't see the cars behind me. It really flustered me and I cut my ride short. But it's back on the horse today!
After I had swerved around her I looked back and there were atleast 6 cars behind me being held up by this woman...so it wasn't like she just didn't see me...she didn't see the cars behind me. It really flustered me and I cut my ride short. But it's back on the horse today!
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I don't think the cell phone is the end all, its the fact that people in cars don't realize that bikes can ride nearly as fast as they do. If i had a dollar for every time someone tries to swerve around me when approaching a stop sign and then either i pull up to it right as they do or i get to it before they do and they cant get ahead of me, man, i'd be rich.
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I don't think the cell phone is the end all, its the fact that people in cars don't realize that bikes can ride nearly as fast as they do. If i had a dollar for every time someone tries to swerve around me when approaching a stop sign and then either i pull up to it right as they do or i get to it before they do and they cant get ahead of me, man, i'd be rich.
BTW, cell phones have been shown to be very distracting to drivers and their cognitive abilities while driving. In fact the NHTSA has estimated that 20-30% of accidents happen because of cell phone distractions.
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Banning cell phones is never going to happen. Just look at most interchanges, around here there is a cell tower in just about every one. The state/county/city just makes to much money off these to ever seriously ban cell phones in a car. We already have the technology to disrupt cell phone signals in various locations, but the courts have ruled against doing that, i.e. in movie theaters. They could build a car that cell phones wouldn't work in, I would buy that.
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Banning cell phones is never going to happen. Just look at most interchanges, around here there is a cell tower in just about every one. The state/county/city just makes to much money off these to ever seriously ban cell phones in a car. We already have the technology to disrupt cell phone signals in various locations, but the courts have ruled against doing that, i.e. in movie theaters. They could build a car that cell phones wouldn't work in, I would buy that.
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Good job being able to avoid the accident.
Before cell phones were so predominant, drivers were much more predictable.
Before cell phones were so predominant, drivers were much more predictable.
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I also "almost" got hit yesterday. In my case, is almost got killed!! I am turning right at about 4:30AM in my morning ride. I see a car coming in the direction I am turning, but this a-hole is driving on the left lane almost hitting the mailboxes on that side. Barely had any time to react and throw myself in the grass/sidewalk on the other side of the road. I noticed then he had a piece of paper in his hand with the inside lights on in his pick up truck. Likely drunk as there is a string of redneck bars in that same street. He has the balls to open his window and scream at me that I should be on the sidewalk as I almost made him cause an accident. You would no believe how tempted I was to turn around and beat the snot out of him.
No, it was not a light issue. I have enough lights up front for cars to stop 1/4 mile down the road to let me pass thinking it is a car with only one headlight or a big motorcycle coming.
As for cellphones, I am all for banning them. I have been to 3 third world countries in this year alone in this side of the hemisphere where they are already illegal to use while driving. But, I forget "we" are the intelligent and civilized country!
No, it was not a light issue. I have enough lights up front for cars to stop 1/4 mile down the road to let me pass thinking it is a car with only one headlight or a big motorcycle coming.
As for cellphones, I am all for banning them. I have been to 3 third world countries in this year alone in this side of the hemisphere where they are already illegal to use while driving. But, I forget "we" are the intelligent and civilized country!
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glad you're ok dgas! It doesn't have to be a cell phone that distracts a driver....anything other than driving (in your case, drinking and reading a piece of paper) has been shown as a cognitive distraction while driving. I see people driving and reading all the time! What are they thinking?
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glad you're ok dgas! It doesn't have to be a cell phone that distracts a driver....anything other than driving (in your case, drinking and reading a piece of paper) has been shown as a cognitive distraction while driving. I see people driving and reading all the time! What are they thinking?
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Banning cell phones is never going to happen. Just look at most interchanges, around here there is a cell tower in just about every one. The state/county/city just makes to much money off these to ever seriously ban cell phones in a car. We already have the technology to disrupt cell phone signals in various locations, but the courts have ruled against doing that, i.e. in movie theaters. They could build a car that cell phones wouldn't work in, I would buy that.
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Unfortunately, even then the cell phone is still a huge distraction, and I'm quite sure that people are still actually holding their phone, but just have it hidden in their lap, or on the seat. I see people looking down at something all the time. I know they are looking at their cell phone, and not looking clearly both ways.
I see this problem everyday I'm out riding ... !!! Other things are also a major distraction though (doing make up while driving, shaving, reading, eating, drinking, looking for CDs, looking for stuff under the seat, writing while driving, etc.
I was nearly hit when I was driving several years ago. The truck driver was trying to grab his coffee as he was turning a corner, and a very busy intersection. He swung too wide and just about hit me. I followed him, and cut him off to get him to stop, and was pretty upset. A police officer saw what happened, and came over to make a report. The truck driver was apologetic and really sorry.
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I second that motion for banning cell phone completely while driving! Everytime I'm out riding I see people using their cell phones and NOT paying attention.
I noticed this problem when I used to drive as well. Drivers are not aware of other motor vehicles quite often. They just look one way, then pull out into traffic, nearly causing an accident.
There are many accidents in our area. Wonder how many are caused by cell phones?
I noticed this problem when I used to drive as well. Drivers are not aware of other motor vehicles quite often. They just look one way, then pull out into traffic, nearly causing an accident.
There are many accidents in our area. Wonder how many are caused by cell phones?
I also "almost" got hit yesterday. In my case, is almost got killed!! I am turning right at about 4:30AM in my morning ride. I see a car coming in the direction I am turning, but this a-hole is driving on the left lane almost hitting the mailboxes on that side. Barely had any time to react and throw myself in the grass/sidewalk on the other side of the road. I noticed then he had a piece of paper in his hand with the inside lights on in his pick up truck. Likely drunk as there is a string of redneck bars in that same street. He has the balls to open his window and scream at me that I should be on the sidewalk as I almost made him cause an accident. You would no believe how tempted I was to turn around and beat the snot out of him.
No, it was not a light issue. I have enough lights up front for cars to stop 1/4 mile down the road to let me pass thinking it is a car with only one headlight or a big motorcycle coming.
As for cellphones, I am all for banning them. I have been to 3 third world countries in this year alone in this side of the hemisphere where they are already illegal to use while driving. But, I forget "we" are the intelligent and civilized country!
No, it was not a light issue. I have enough lights up front for cars to stop 1/4 mile down the road to let me pass thinking it is a car with only one headlight or a big motorcycle coming.
As for cellphones, I am all for banning them. I have been to 3 third world countries in this year alone in this side of the hemisphere where they are already illegal to use while driving. But, I forget "we" are the intelligent and civilized country!
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That is the problem in itself. They ARE NOT thinking at all. People think that driving is like sitting on the toilet. You just sit there and things happen naturally. I have seen people typing on a laptop, reading a newspaper, talking on a cell, eating a full 3 course meal, putting make up, shaving, combing their hair, putting on a tie, and even putting on a panty hose while driving. All of these at 75+ MPH in heavy traffic.
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That is the problem in itself. They ARE NOT thinking at all. People think that driving is like sitting on the toilet. You just sit there and things happen naturally. I have seen people typing on a laptop, reading a newspaper, talking on a cell, eating a full 3 course meal, putting make up, shaving, combing their hair, putting on a tie, and even putting on a panty hose while driving. All of these at 75+ MPH in heavy traffic.
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We are definitely closer to a total ban on cell phone usage while driving, since that incident in Houston where the 5 children died after the van rolled into the swollen ditch. The driver was reaching for, or putting away, his cell phone and lost control.
I can talk hands free and drive safely, but sadly many people cannot. I am beginning to feel it should be banned. Too many people are oblivious to the serious responsibility of driving carefully.
I can talk hands free and drive safely, but sadly many people cannot. I am beginning to feel it should be banned. Too many people are oblivious to the serious responsibility of driving carefully.
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People, in general, do not pay attention to driving while they are driving. They are distracted by a myriad of things. Therefore it is YOUR responsibility, whether you like it or not, to be totally aware of your surroundings and those that are interacting with it.
Also you may as well expect to be hit at some time no matter what you do or how safe and observant you try to be. It is part of the cyclists life. The only thing you can/might be able to do is influence those you have the misfortune to have direct contact with. Make a complaint and follow through when someone nearly hits you. Carry a cell phone, stop and make the call immediately. Or at the very least try to remember their plate number and make the complaint with the local police department when you get home. Also complain to the registry of motor vehicles. They can/will and have contacted drivers that have had complaints lodged against them.
Don't make lame ass complaints though...so and so was driving like a jerk, etc...have details and be clear and calm.
I have been racing and riding for over 18 years, been hit by cars close to 10 times now and the last one nearly killed me and my team mate. I still ride and love riding but I am now a more aggressive rider. I do not try to ride the edge of the rode...gave that up many years ago...I ride the white line and "f"em if they don't like it. If I am turning I am in the center of the lane as a car would be...we are expected to obey the rules of the road we should start riding that way as well. I don't feed into bone heads yelling crap...they are just not worth the effort...you're not going to change them...just laugh and take pleasure knowing they are upset and you are not.
If we/you don't take charge you will always be the victim.
Also you may as well expect to be hit at some time no matter what you do or how safe and observant you try to be. It is part of the cyclists life. The only thing you can/might be able to do is influence those you have the misfortune to have direct contact with. Make a complaint and follow through when someone nearly hits you. Carry a cell phone, stop and make the call immediately. Or at the very least try to remember their plate number and make the complaint with the local police department when you get home. Also complain to the registry of motor vehicles. They can/will and have contacted drivers that have had complaints lodged against them.
Don't make lame ass complaints though...so and so was driving like a jerk, etc...have details and be clear and calm.
I have been racing and riding for over 18 years, been hit by cars close to 10 times now and the last one nearly killed me and my team mate. I still ride and love riding but I am now a more aggressive rider. I do not try to ride the edge of the rode...gave that up many years ago...I ride the white line and "f"em if they don't like it. If I am turning I am in the center of the lane as a car would be...we are expected to obey the rules of the road we should start riding that way as well. I don't feed into bone heads yelling crap...they are just not worth the effort...you're not going to change them...just laugh and take pleasure knowing they are upset and you are not.
If we/you don't take charge you will always be the victim.
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In hawaii we are pushing legislation to ban cellphones. I live on base so its a non-issue as the MP's take good care of law breakers! If cars are edging me off I'll just point at their tires and shout "you have a flat" To date it has yet to work but you may as well try.
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It is banned here in the UK (i.e. you have to use a handsfree kit) and only today I was out walking and saw 2 people on their phones. When I get a helmet cam the police said if I catch people on their phones then they can fine them
However it still comes down to the fact that people think it is their right to drive. Back in the olden days when cars were new people were scared of them - quite rightly too they are heavy and fast = lots of energy. People need to be re-educated to give the road their FULL attention and dangerous driving needs to result in a ban more quickly than it already does. Cars kill so many people and have the potential to kill many more that they require concentration and care to drive.
Rant over! Glad you are ok, next time try to get the plate and report it to the local police.
However it still comes down to the fact that people think it is their right to drive. Back in the olden days when cars were new people were scared of them - quite rightly too they are heavy and fast = lots of energy. People need to be re-educated to give the road their FULL attention and dangerous driving needs to result in a ban more quickly than it already does. Cars kill so many people and have the potential to kill many more that they require concentration and care to drive.
Rant over! Glad you are ok, next time try to get the plate and report it to the local police.
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Coming home from my ride today, a young guy in a Mercedes on his cellphone makes an illegal u-turn across a double yellow and floors it (which is pretty stupid as well, esp. since it is on a local street). I slam on my brakes--fishtail. He slams on his brakes. He curses me out. He's the one who was negligent, almost kills me, and curses me out. I just kept riding.
In NYC, things like this are a daily event. You just deal with it. Things will only get better if bicycles are accepted as a form of transportation rather than being viewed as toys for kids or as a recreational hobby in the U.S. or localities, and that will most likely not happen in my lifetime.
Glad you are ok.
In NYC, things like this are a daily event. You just deal with it. Things will only get better if bicycles are accepted as a form of transportation rather than being viewed as toys for kids or as a recreational hobby in the U.S. or localities, and that will most likely not happen in my lifetime.
Glad you are ok.
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Not me. It makes me mad enough to ride longer and harder.
As far as cell phones, it won't matter if they outlaw them or not. I'm in a state where they were outlawed last year (hands free is allowed) and I don't see much difference in the number of people with their hand covering one side of their face.
As far as cell phones, it won't matter if they outlaw them or not. I'm in a state where they were outlawed last year (hands free is allowed) and I don't see much difference in the number of people with their hand covering one side of their face.
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the study I read stated that cell phone users have a 30% slower reaction time than those under the influence.